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 potpot
Regular  Location: teesside Registered: 18 Aug 2009 Posts: 132 Status: Offline |
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Thinking of going down the root of throttle bodies and would like some advice guys please. I'd like to know exactly whats involved, what bits or setup id need and what kind of cost im looking at. My rallye's current set up includes newman 285 cams, all the additional rebored block with forged 86.5mm pistons to match.Few other bits such as lighten n balanced flywheel, remapped, aftermarket exhaust, KnN etc. |
 Posted 29th Mar 2016 at 20:07
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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this is my setup with prices from memory -satchell inlet £180 jenvey 45's with pq2 lever £380 for 118mm bodies, £420 for 92mm home made cable bracket shortened standard throttle cable trumpets £90 backplate free from a mate, would cost £25 I think itg filter £25 - used, £90 ish. original fuel rail fpr and injectors. serviced. jenvey fuel rail £62 clio iwp042's. used, serviced. dta s40 ebay us £400, rrp £550 home made wiring loom £70, components and wire from harnessing solutions aem wideband lambda £100 used, rrp £150 torques fuel lines and fittings £100 mapped by sandy brown £300 mef motorsport can help you with the jenvey and dta bits, and the loom if you don't fancy making it yourself. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Mar 2016 at 20:45
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potpot
Regular Location: teesside Registered: 18 Aug 2009 Posts: 132 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: this is my setup with prices from memory - satchell inlet £180 jenvey 45's with pq2 lever £380 for 118mm bodies, £420 for 92mm home made cable bracket shortened standard throttle cable trumpets £90 backplate free from a mate, would cost £25 I think itg filter £25 - used, £90 ish. original fuel rail fpr and injectors. serviced. jenvey fuel rail £62 clio iwp042's. used, serviced. dta s40 ebay us £400, rrp £550 home made wiring loom £70, components and wire from harnessing solutions aem wideband lambda £100 used, rrp £150 torques fuel lines and fittings £100 mapped by sandy brown £300 mef motorsport can help you with the jenvey and dta bits, and the loom if you don't fancy making it yourself. So a fortune then  |
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Posted 29th Mar 2016 at 20:55
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RallyeP6
Regular  Location: West Byfleet Registered: 11 Jul 2013 Posts: 451 Status: Offline |
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Can be a fortune or if you are fortunate like me, I bought my Jenvey 45mm and fuel rail, injectors, linkages, Longman manifold etc for only £400. Already had my DTA, made my loom, the only one big expense was the mapping.It can be done on the cheap but may take time to wait for the bits to come up for sale. Worth it in the end though, the sound of 4 wide open throttle butterflies on the rolling road is awsome!. Looks like you already have a head start with the engine mods though.  |
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Posted 29th Mar 2016 at 21:08
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potpot
Regular Location: teesside Registered: 18 Aug 2009 Posts: 132 Status: Offline |
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RallyeP6 wrote: Can be a fortune or if you are fortunate like me, I bought my Jenvey 45mm and fuel rail, injectors, linkages, Longman manifold etc for only £400. Already had my DTA, made my loom, the only one big expense was the mapping. It can be done on the cheap but may take time to wait for the bits to come up for sale. Worth it in the end though, the sound of 4 wide open throttle butterflies on the rolling road is awsome!. Looks like you already have a head start with the engine mods though. What powers gains did you see ? |
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Posted 29th Mar 2016 at 21:21
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potpot
Regular Location: teesside Registered: 18 Aug 2009 Posts: 132 Status: Offline |
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Ive noticed pug 1off does some kits ? |
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Posted 29th Mar 2016 at 21:23
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RallyeP6
Regular Location: West Byfleet Registered: 11 Jul 2013 Posts: 451 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Not much, 183 bhp on the rolling road, with standard everything else, I put a limit of 6000 RPM as the engine had done 100K miles, though the head was rebuilt. |
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Posted 29th Mar 2016 at 22:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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I wouldn't go with a kit, you wont get a satchell inlet in one  and they usually include a linkage kit which is £80 you dont need to spend, have a look in my project thread for more details and pics.6k limit?! mine went to 7700! stock engines peak at 6500, a bit more on bodies, not sure where my peak was but on ph2's it was roughly 200 bhp flywheel at standard 86x86. 100k miles is nothing! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Mar 2016 at 22:47
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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What's the power and torque like on your ph4's potpot? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Mar 2016 at 22:49
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potpot
Regular Location: teesside Registered: 18 Aug 2009 Posts: 132 Status: Offline |
Post #10
welshpug! wrote: What's the power and torque like on your ph4's potpot? I seem to of lost the relevant paperwork but 196bhp rings a bell, not sure if thats flywheel or wheels of course, i know the cams and other relevant work should compliment throttle bodies nicely. |
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Posted 30th Mar 2016 at 18:47
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #11
6k limit?WHATTT I take my 138ish k miler to 7000 often. Still has all the horses in the stable. Maintenence is the key ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 11th Apr 2016 at 10:53
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: 6k limit? WHATTT I take my 138ish k miler to 7000 often. Still has all the horses in the stable. Maintenence is the key Swapped out my engine 4 years ago for a low mileage one and fully rebuilt the head but it occasionally catches the limiter at 7650rpm in first if you don't change up as the rev counter gets to 7k because the needle can't keep up with the engine speed lol. Good maintainance inc good quality belt and pump and you won't have a problem. These heads have double valve springs for a reason. ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 11th Apr 2016 at 11:19
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RallyeP6
Regular Location: West Byfleet Registered: 11 Jul 2013 Posts: 451 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I do have history with the car, and the head was rebuilt, just played it safe for everyday road use. |
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Posted 11th Apr 2016 at 12:49
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
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potpot ure a local lad I see________________________________________ |
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Posted 11th Apr 2016 at 13:07
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potpot
Regular Location: teesside Registered: 18 Aug 2009 Posts: 132 Status: Offline |
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fatlapit wrote: potpot ure a local lad I see Ish mate ish, bout an hour or so away. |
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Posted 11th Apr 2016 at 18:28
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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armzsc6 wrote: eliotrw wrote: 6k limit? WHATTT I take my 138ish k miler to 7000 often. Still has all the horses in the stable. Maintenence is the key Swapped out my engine 4 years ago for a low mileage one and fully rebuilt the head but it occasionally catches the limiter at 7650rpm in first if you don't change up as the rev counter gets to 7k because the needle can't keep up with the engine speed lol. Good maintainance inc good quality belt and pump and you won't have a problem. These heads have double valve springs for a reason. Mines got 162k miles on it and I never think twice about taking it up to 7k revs. Get that limiter raised. A lot! ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 11th Apr 2016 at 18:50
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