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 eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Whats different between the low boost lynx ECU and the standard ECU? Seen two different things, 1 saying its only a map and another saying its a chip. Are the low boost ECU mappable or not? Been looking at an eaton M62 charger and was thinking a low boost ECU may work with a few tweeks________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
 Posted 12th May 2015 at 22:48
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #2
The lynx low boost uses the standard ECU with a reprogrammed chip. They are not live mappable in the way a Omex or DTA is. Seeing as you will need a custom map for an Eaton, a standard ECU really isn't an option. |
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Posted 12th May 2015 at 22:49
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luke306rallye
Regular  Location: Rotherham Registered: 13 Sep 2010 Posts: 310 Status: Offline |
Post #3
You could use a standard ecu or low boost mapped ecu, they're the same thing really. You'd have to get Wayne to map it for you though. |
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Posted 13th May 2015 at 07:13
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #4
You can live map a standard ECU - if you have the right equipment - and Wayne is the only person in the UK for this.The standard ECU could be mapped for an Eaton SC - Wayne has had a breakthrough with the standard ECU where he now has the ability to rescale the MAP sensor and let the ECU read boost - thus avoiding the need to put the throttle body on the inlet of the compressor, as we do on the low boost conversion. Rich ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 13th May 2015 at 07:57
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
Post #5
rich_w wrote: You can live map a standard ECU - if you have the right equipment - and Wayne is the only person in the UK for this. The standard ECU could be mapped for an Eaton SC - Wayne has had a breakthrough with the standard ECU where he now has the ability to rescale the MAP sensor and let the ECU read boost - thus avoiding the need to put the throttle body on the inlet of the compressor, as we do on the low boost conversion. Rich This is interesting Rich  So when i go high boost (ETA summer 2056) should i be looking to change the setup and reposition the throttle body?Cheers ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 13th May 2015 at 09:21
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Thanks for the info. Wayne isnt really too far away, couple hours down the A1. Rich does this mean i wont need to buy a low boost ecu as he would be able to map my wcu from standard?I just thought i would ask the question as i cant see why the eaton cant be mapped on the standard ecu when the lynx kits can. ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 13th May 2015 at 10:11
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #7
rich_w wrote: The standard ECU could be mapped for an Eaton SC - Wayne has had a breakthrough with the standard ECU where he now has the ability to rescale the MAP sensor and let the ECU read boost - thus avoiding the need to put the throttle body on the inlet of the compressor, as we do on the low boost conversion. Rich interesting! i mind him saying something about this when i was down... last year sometime ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 13th May 2015 at 11:27
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #8
rallyestyle wrote: rich_w wrote: You can live map a standard ECU - if you have the right equipment - and Wayne is the only person in the UK for this. The standard ECU could be mapped for an Eaton SC - Wayne has had a breakthrough with the standard ECU where he now has the ability to rescale the MAP sensor and let the ECU read boost - thus avoiding the need to put the throttle body on the inlet of the compressor, as we do on the low boost conversion. Rich This is interesting Rich So when i go high boost (ETA summer 2056) should i be looking to change the setup and reposition the throttle body?Cheers You could do - although the setup we do works very well also - so I guess it depends if you want to go to the effort of relocating the throttle, fitting a DV etc. Would be interesting to though, plus you get woooop tiiissccchh noises  ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 13th May 2015 at 21:43
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #9
rich_w wrote: woooop tiiissccchh noises TBH this is probably the best bit of having a boosted car |
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Posted 13th May 2015 at 22:44
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Niall wrote: rich_w wrote: woooop tiiissccchh noises TBH this is probably the best bit of having a boosted car Agreed... im sold At least i have a while to figure out the changes, would be cool to look into it ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 14th May 2015 at 08:41
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #11
while we are on the subjectthere much benefit of relocating the throttle to manifold? besides the noise for you chavs  ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 14th May 2015 at 10:42
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #12
quicker throttle response one would imagine, also no issues with hoses collapsing under vacuum.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th May 2015 at 12:47
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marco gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
Post #13
This is good news Rich, are you thinking of making upgrade kits with say, dumpvalve and flanges to reposition the throttle body? Would we still need the ICV with this configuration? I imagine there would be some interest from members who are low boost?? |
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Posted 15th May 2015 at 08:29
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
Post #14
It's something i would be interested in Cant be too much involved in switching around the position, will have a think about it over the weekend  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 15th May 2015 at 17:08
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,640 Status: Offline |
Post #15
This might have been covered but a quick search didn't find anything; can the standard map sensor read boost with Wayne's breakthrough, and if so what sort of boost can it read up to?If the standard one can't, is it a case of going down an aftermarket 3 bar type? ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2015 at 22:12
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #16
This isn't something I will make an upgrade kit for unless there's lots of interest and people willing to put their hands in their pockets and comit to it.You would need a new flange for the inlet manifold welded on (to accept the T  , new restrictor setup that works without the TB in that location, DV, and the ICV would need sorting out. Electronically it would need a new MAP sensor (standard one only reads 1 BAR or atmospheric ) and new software ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 3rd Jun 2015 at 17:55
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Nick.gti6
Regular  Location: Newport Registered: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 242 Status: Offline |
Post #17
I'd be interested shortly but not just yet, bit low on funds. I haven't looked on the low boost I have just bought, but how does the brake servo work in relation to boost pressure not going into vacuum ect.. does it have a one way valve on it? |
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Posted 4th Jun 2015 at 09:04
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #18
You would need to put a one way valve into the vac system before the servo. I've been thinking about doing this if I ever get time and less money commitments to go high boost. Was gonna look into DTA or Omex management with throttle body on the inlet and dump valve. Gotta love the wooooop TISSHH noises As of later this month I have a garage at my new house I could build up an engine in (no room at work) so this is quite doable. But finances may not allow once I've moved so we shall see. ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 4th Jun 2015 at 10:21
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Nick.gti6
Regular Location: Newport Registered: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 242 Status: Offline |
Post #19
So there would/should be one fitted on mine? |
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Posted 4th Jun 2015 at 10:58
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Nick.gti6 wrote: I'd be interested shortly but not just yet, bit low on funds. I haven't looked on the low boost I have just bought, but how does the brake servo work in relation to boost pressure not going into vacuum ect.. does it have a one way valve on it? There is a one way valve installed already - this is standard, it's the white / black T piece type fitting ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 4th Jun 2015 at 11:19
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Nick.gti6
Regular Location: Newport Registered: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 242 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Thanks Rich |
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Posted 4th Jun 2015 at 11:31
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Id be interested to switching to this sort of setup as i will probably look to run my engine with aftermarket management so may as well get the ebst out of everything.If you had some idea of the work involved and what sort of price you would exepct it to cost Rich that would be cool, happy to commit if it's within my means  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 4th Jun 2015 at 12:12
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jaredboy
Regular  Location: Drammen Registered: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 156 Status: Offline |
Post #23
rallyestyle wrote: Id be interested to switching to this sort of setup as i will probably look to run my engine with aftermarket management so may as well get the ebst out of everything. If you had some idea of the work involved and what sort of price you would exepct it to cost Rich that would be cool, happy to commit if it's within my means Me too:-) ________________________________________ ZX 16V |
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Posted 4th Jun 2015 at 16:37
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marco gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
Post #24
rallyestyle wrote: Id be interested to switching to this sort of setup as i will probably look to run my engine with aftermarket management so may as well get the ebst out of everything. If you had some idea of the work involved and what sort of price you would exepct it to cost Rich that would be cool, happy to commit if it's within my means Same here |
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Posted 6th Jun 2015 at 10:17
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