This one's starting to puzzle me a bit.

I've got an early 1995 Roland Garros Cab coming soon, which as far as I know (I haven't got it yet so can't check properly) has the totally mechanical speedometer / odometer, which presumably means it's got a different body loom to the later Ph1s and Ph2 / Ph3s. But it's got an airbag fitted to the steering wheel unlike the really early phase 1s which has thrown me a bit.

Did the Phase 1 go directly from mechanical speedo and no airbag to electronic speedo (with mechanical odometer) and airbags, or was there some in-betweeny model?

Reason why I ask is I'm beginning to wonder if it's had a later Ph1 airbag steering wheel fitted in place of the 'proper' Roland Garros one, or whether it has got an electronic speedo after all.

Also (from the comments on my engine loom thread) I'm beginning to wonder if only the very early Phase 1s had different wiring in the body -> engine loom plugs, which may mean I've wasted my time swapping the engine loom for a modified one.

s16 had cable speedo with electronic output for the ecu, gti6 had electronic speedo, both had airbags.

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Bring on the Trumpets.

i put an s16 engine (cable driven) into an xsi that had electric speedo

http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=155261

edit> actually, it had the xsi (electric) gearbox on it but i'd have thought you could still rectify it

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Shame about what happened to your mate's car - it must have been a fantastic-looking (and sounding) Roland Garros before it's meeting with a wall. Nice to meet him btw, and all those bits I bought certainly made the trip to Wales worthwhile for me

Luckily I've already got the dual output speedo sender so I don't need to worry about that, and I've already fitted the modified loom so when the project car finally arrives (it's over a week late now) obviously I'll be very happy if it all plugs and plays. But I'm going to keep the original loom too for the time being, so I can swap them over / compare pinouts if it doesn't work straight off.

One thing I did discover when I was digging through the various plug pinouts (which you may be able to confirm) was that the small loom plug only seems to have the aircon and immobiliser wires running through it; wonder if unplugging that would be a 'quick fix' to test if you'd soft unlocked an ecu correctly before cutting any wires?

Yeah it was a shame, it was a lovely car until it met it's fate.

You are correct with the small plug and that's exactly why it was left unplugged as the Ecu he had was only in an open state so we didn't want to chance it being able to relock. As others have said if you have the keypad you can just unplug that but his didn't have one so was the safest way.

I'd definitely convert to manual though, that's a whole lot of hassle for no gain really trying to keep it automatic.

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