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Subject: AP Racing Calipers - Brake Pads and Rotor Issue

Lecktorious

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Hi folks,

I have AP Racing CP3307 calipers on my Rallye which need new pads. From looking online it appears only EBC make a pad to fit, however I've found them to be quite quick wearing. Does anyone know if any other manufacturers make pads for these calipers and where I can get them?

Also, I have found that as the pads wears down, the collar on the edge of the pad strikes the bolts on the bell.

I've trimmed this down but I'm still finding it rubs on occasion. Is there any other solution to trimming the pad down, new rotors maybe?

Thanks in advance.

Graham

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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 15:39

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I'd see if there's room to space the caliper out a little.

as for the pads there's a few different patterns AP use but more are of generic old cars and fairly widely used, get a proper profile picture and dimensions of the bad backing and have a browse the various online cataogues, I know the smaller AP and Wilwood calipers used a pad shape form an old AP lockheed 2 pot off something like a Volvo 240 amongst other randoms Big grin

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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 16:02

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GOOGLEFUU FTMFW>

http://www.apracing.com/product_details/race_car/brake_pads/4_piston_caliper_pad_profiles/cp3215d50.aspx

"Friction Materials Available APF402 / APF403 / APF404 / DS1.11 / DS2500 / DS3000 / F4R / ST39 / ST41 / ST43 / RS29"

dumping the pad part number into KAM racing gave me a CL brake pad which you can get in any of their friction materials, can also be bought in 17 or 20mm material thickness.

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/ap-racing-cp3215d50-cl-brakes-race-brake-pads.html

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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 16:08

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Ferodo code for that shape is http://ecat.ferodoracing.com/car-racing/brake-pads/FRP216

and the thicker variant is

http://ecat.ferodoracing.com/car-racing/brake-pads/FRP212

seems form the cross reference list by ferodo they're an Aston Martin V12 rear brake pad, a Subaru Impreza Group N factory front brake setup, a Renault CLio S1600 front brake, Also the same shape as an ALCON brake caliper.

the thicker pad is used on the front of a C6 corvette, and also a Lotus Carlton LOL

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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 16:14

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Lecktorious

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Brilliant, thanks for this Welshy. I'll see what I can get from Ferodo.

Regarding spacing the caliper out, the caliper is mounted direct to the hub so I'm not sure how this would work? Don't think I've got the space to move them out much tbh.

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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 16:33

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ah, they're Lug mounted not radial with a bracket?

if there's enough meat then the mounting lug holes could be plugged and drilled further away from the caliper, to mount the caliper further out a little.

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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 16:38

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these AP were used on rear of some grpA cosworth , there is loads of different pads you can get , personally would bye pagid blue , might have some pads in garage for these , will look tomorrow ,will not be pagid blue material just spares from cossie

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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 17:12

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Lecktorious

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Thanks mate Thumbs up

keep me posted as I will be needing a set pretty soon.

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Posted 21st Mar 2015 at 17:26

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FAO anyone in the know, am I really looking at £60-£70 for a set of brake pads? If so I'll bite the bullet and pay up but all of the pads I am coming across are aimed at track cars. I am looking for a set of standard pads for road use really. Seeing as I have went through a set in a year I'd rather avoid this annual expense if possible LOL

Pad dimensions are 132.4mm x 56.0mm x 17.0mm

AP Racing caliper reference is CP3307 with a pad reference of CP3215

Any help appreciated as always Thumbs up

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Posted 31st Mar 2015 at 22:44

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10 quid more and go for some M1144's?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mintex-M1144-Brake-Pads-Fit-AP-Racing-4-Pot-Calipers-CP3215-CP6720-CP5200-CP5040-/291279112691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43d19689f3

Personally id go RS4-2 Blue but out of your price range i think Yes

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Posted 1st Apr 2015 at 18:33

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Apparently according to the add all of these will fit too:

AP Racing CP3215D50
Carbone Lorraine 5004W50T17
EBC DP4002
Endless EP915
Ferodo FRP216
Hawk HB110
Pagid E1361
PFB Carbon Metallic 7767

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Posted 1st Apr 2015 at 18:34

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Bargain:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferodo-Brake-Pads-4003-Compound-Set-of-4-Pads-For-Ap-Caliper-CP3307-FRP216C-/191472602790?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c94a80ea6

Thumbs up

Edit: Perhaps too race orientated though LOL

Go for the M1144's

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Posted 1st Apr 2015 at 18:38

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Lecktorious

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Thanks mate, appreciated Thumbs up

they are reasonably cheap and seem to work from any temperature so I might give them a go.

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Posted 1st Apr 2015 at 18:41

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No probs. I have never used the M1144's before but they are a very popular compound for the standard callipers on the 6/rallye and loads will sing their praises on here. Certainly worth a crack at that price id say, should be perfect for what you want to use them for Yes

Id be tempted to trim the collar off them properly when fitting too if required.

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Posted 1st Apr 2015 at 18:46

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Lecktorious

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Yeah, I will check they fit first and if they do I'll file the collar off completely. Probably a bit cheaper than buying new bells for the rotars!

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Posted 1st Apr 2015 at 18:48

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