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ash j

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Just want to check I have listed out all the parts I need for a clutch change correctly:

- Genuine Pug clutch kit (already have this)
- Clutch Cable
- Clutch fork bushes (2 white bushes)
- Input shaft seal (release bearing slides onto this)
- 2 litres of Pug BV 75w80 gear oil
- Genuine Pug driveshaft oil seals x 2

Think that is everything? Haven't missed anything?

I also have a GE quickshift to fit, and need to source some linkages from Miles, so that I can fit all of this at the same time.

Cheers

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 20:59

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I'll have some linkages for sale when I find the 3rd one mate, yep you have covered all the bits that you will need :thumbs up

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 21:06

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Nice one cheers. And I'll defo have those linkages off you mate when you find them Thumbs up

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 21:08

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Input shaft seal ??

I'd get a crank seal as well but you will have to take the fly whell off to fit it !

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 21:15

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Yeah, one of these below, clutch release bearing slides onto it. If it is damaged it can make the clutch sticky, so worth replacing as precaution.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280899783946?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Cheers for advice re crank seal Thumbs up

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 21:21

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One of these Chris?

http://www.spoox.co.uk/en/306/4092-peugeot-405-19-mi16-rear-crank-seal.html

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 21:22

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Buy from a Peugeot dealer not Spoox - Warners in Tewkesbury will post if you don't have a good one nearby. Speak to Steve or Ed on 01684 297575

You have the new style clutch fork bushes with rubber inserts? Make a huge difference as i've just found out in the last two weeks Thumbs up

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Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 21:32

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Cheers Adam Thumbs up

Wasn't going to buy from Spoox just wanted to make sure it was right part.

I have searched and found the part numbers for the two crank seals.

One needs flywheel off to replace, the other will be replaced when I change cambelt and fit alloy pulley at same time.

Cheers Smile

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 21:32

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adam b wrote:

You have the new style clutch fork bushes with rubber inserts? Make a huge difference as i've just found out in the last two weeks Thumbs up

According to servicebox, my VIN comes up with the part numbers for the new style bushes yes. There used to be only two part numbers, but on mine there is three, the third being a seal/insert for the lower bush I believe.

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 22:14

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fits the top bush too.

the bushes will fit any be box that uses the white type, there waa a very early 205/405 yellow bush with a different push type release fork

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Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 22:43

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You'll need 3 litre of gear box oil.

I put in 2.5 litres and it didn't come out the side. But i read the FAQ so didnt put in any more.

I've since put in the rest and gearbox change is less crunchy. But with the weather I've not had a chance to run her and then get the wheel of to see if any comes out the side.

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Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 22:45

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Er no you need 2.2 litres of oil in the box

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 22:47

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I thought there was only the std fork bushes ? What are the inserts ?

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 22:48

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bigbadbowen wrote:

I thought there was only the std fork bushes ? What are the inserts ?

I was going to ask the same???

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Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 22:51

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There is an older and newer design of fork bushes.

Older bush part numbers:

2175 21 FORK BEARING SUP BA- - WHITE - UNTIL RPO 08484

2175 20 FORK BEARING INF BA- - WHITE- UNTIL RPO 08484

Newer bush part numbers:

2175 55 SUP - SINCE RPO 08485

2175 54 INF - SINCE RPO 08485

2175 56 PROTECTOR 20,4X25,9-11 - SINCE RPO 08485

That bottom one (2175 56) is a seal /insert for the later lower fork bush. I think it might be to do with addressing issue of water getting in and rusting the shaft which can increase wear. But otherwise not sure but that is the additional part for later bushes.

The later bushes appear on cars after 01.02.2000

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 23:05

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welshpug! wrote:

fits the top bush too.

the bushes will fit any be box that uses the white type, there waa a very early 205/405 yellow bush with a different push type release fork

So would need two seals then for each bush? Servicebox diagram shows the seal only on bottom bush. So top one needs it as well?

And 3 litres of gearbox oil Mister GTR?!

Just over two litres is required as Chris says, but 2 litres should be adequate as there will be some old oil left since you can't completely drain it all.

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 23:04

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I obviously emptied all my oil when fitting diff ,I've only put in 2 litres , worth me putting more in ?

Posted 20th Jan 2015 at 23:17

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bigbadbowen wrote:

Er no you need 2.2 litres of oil in the box

So you shouldn't fill it until it comes out the over flow on the side of the gearbox?

Nb, I have read that the figure is wrong because the 6 Haynes manual has the 5 speed gearbox oil capacity in it.

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Posted 21st Jan 2015 at 00:12

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Ive had it where it didn't come out of level check hole until Id been for a drive

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Posted 21st Jan 2015 at 01:12

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buzzbrightyear wrote:

Ive had it where it didn't come out of level check hole until Id been for a drive

Ah okay. Will report back when it gets above freezing and i can take it for a drive and check.

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Posted 21st Jan 2015 at 02:05

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Did as Buzz suggested and as expected he was right.

A couple hundred mls of oil came out (sorry for not measuring exactly) I'd still say that more than 2ltrs is needed considering i put in 3ltr. But then i made sure i drained when the gearbox oil was warm/hot and left it an hour to drip, so maybe have got more out than some.

But as Buzz said. Put in 2ltrs (or a little more if you buy 3 bottles), go a for a drive to warm things up, then remove the overflow screw.

Thanks again for the advice.

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Posted 25th Jan 2015 at 16:10

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