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 swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Been looking at an Audi s4 and also an e46 M3. Ive driven an m3 before and thought it was awesome. Can anyone on here give me some thoughts as to what I should look out for in these cars? Also anyones experience in them? I think the s4 I was looking at is a b6???? 2003-2004 ish modelThanks ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3  |
 Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:32
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jimmyrallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: portsmouth Registered: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 3,144 Status: Offline |
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Been looking at e46 m3 my self , personaly I would go for a manual the over the smg models also there's the rear subframe to check as there prone to crack also make sure its had its first service at bmw .. To save a few quid get one thats hads it discs and pads changed as there can be expensive , check for rust under front wings as well , not to clued up on the s4,s tho I nearly swapped my 1 series msport for a m3 last week end but it was a proper dog in the flesh ________________________________________ "Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off." |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:52
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
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Not sure about the b6 range but my mate had an s4 and the timing chain stretched..... What ever car you go for there will always be common faults so just make sure you do your research first, both of those cars are going to cost a fortune for parts so your buggered either way! |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 18:55
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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Get one of these, bloody great things, you have to check them well though and they are old now. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 19:31
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AndyJ
Seasoned Pro  Location: Birmingham Registered: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 5,894 Status: Offline |
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jimmyrallye wrote: Been looking at e46 m3 my self , personaly I would go for a manual the over the smg models also there's the rear subframe to check as there prone to crack also make sure its had its first service at bmw .. To save a few quid get one thats hads it discs and pads changed as there can be expensive , check for rust under front wings as well , not to clued up on the s4,s tho I nearly swapped my 1 series msport for a m3 last week end but it was a proper dog in the flesh Same as. The SMG box is horrible around town, and slow moving traffic. Manuals are harder to come by, tho. ________________________________________ For we are many.PS£ ID: Monkey369 |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 20:10
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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had both an e36 m3 evo and e46 m3's and they are awesome cars. the e46 was more comfortable and modern but not as quick in my opinion. the e36 evo was absolutely ruthless but the e46 sounded better with the titanium exhaust. watch out for everyone on the internet warning you about vanos units without any prior experience of them  ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 20:21
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Phil white
Regular  Location: Harrogate Registered: 29 Jun 2013 Posts: 223 Status: Offline |
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Had an e46 m3 for three years, main things are tyres if you have 19",standard brakes are expensive, high mileage models do suffer with head gasket problems and all models will eventually crack the boot floor (no help from manufacturer over 10 years.) In three years I had to change alternator (500 quid). That was the only thing that went wrong for me on engine. I had SMG never had any issues to note. Miss it sooooo much! |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 20:21
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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 petrol receipts (only from Shell garage v-power) totalling £14151.97 from june2007-april2010 not cheap to run! but very good fun ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 20:23
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
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I drove S4 with 400hp, you can engage to 6th gear in 30kph and drive all the way to 317 kph.it had the most smooth acceleration i'v ever seen. & it's reliable car, far more the the M3. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 20:36
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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yeah sounds about right, from my notes my M3 had: front springs, rear shockers rebuilding, rear top mounts, RTAB's, diff seals, fuel pump, front wing got kicked in by johnny dangerous, vanos unit got rebuilt twice, some sensor at the back of the head which the full engine got took out for because it needed drilling out and a new thread tapping in, and then i needed some new heater motor which was worth doing whilst engine was out. also £2800 in Eagle F1 tyresso yeah, audi is a good bet  aren't they a V6 or are we on about the slightly newer V8 ones here? didn't they change around 2002-2003?________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 20:48
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
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Thats one nice looking cosworth ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 21:21
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #12
those Ford cosworth was well known for it's healthy appetite for clutches, and if i recall insane insurance.________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 14th Jul 2014 at 23:37
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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oldbrownshoe wrote: those Ford cosworth was well known for it's healthy appetite for clutches, and if i recall insane insurance. Clutches I would say more than likely, they don't have a big clutch to be fair and most are modified so running a lot more power, insurance isn't to bad, I pay £300 fully comp with a guaranteed value of £25k Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 07:18
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Clutch problems or not that would still look better being pushed home than a 306 ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 07:24
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #15
The s4 is in my opinion not the performance all rpunded the m3 is. Its slightly understeery in comparison. Id be all over a E46. They are likely to become more sortafter over the years as well and i really dont see them falling in price any time soon________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 07:59
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bennn
Seasoned Pro  Location: Shrewsbury Registered: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 2,705 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: The s4 is in my opinion not the performance all rpunded the m3 is. Its slightly understeery in comparison. Id be all over a E46. They are likely to become more sortafter over the years as well and i really dont see them falling in price any time soon Out of curiousity have you driven both cars? Or is it the internets opinion? I can see E46's continuing to drop in price as there are still a lot about. If you're concered bout depreciation I'd go for an E36 Evo. ________________________________________ Cherry Red 306 HDIChampionship White Integra DC5 Type R |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 13:30
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #17
S4 avant with a map on it would be a good all rounder, the recent 3.0 supercharged ones will match the pace of an RS!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 13:35
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #18
I was looking at the s4 avant 4.2 v8. We dont do a lot of mileage so petrols not really the issue. Theres alot more space for the nipper in the back of the audi. I sat in the back of an m3 for 3 hours and im sure im an inch shorter now. Thought id just check on here to see if anyone had experience with them before I looked any further.________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 14:26
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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but the m3 is a coupe and the avant is an estate so can't compare spaciousness?! the e46 m3's prices are plummeting but the e36 3.2 evo's are going up i like the older shape S4's, the nogaro blue 2.7 ones i prefer the m3's though incase you didn't notice  ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 14:29
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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have you looked at the e39 m5's?________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 14:31
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Cjwatson27 wrote: Clutch problems or not that would still look better being pushed home than a 306 Yes but you can abandon a 306 at the roadside and nobody will bother nicking it. ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 15:57
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bennn
Seasoned Pro Location: Shrewsbury Registered: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 2,705 Status: Offline |
Post #22
RetroPug wrote: Cjwatson27 wrote: Clutch problems or not that would still look better being pushed home than a 306 Yes but you can abandon a 306 at the roadside and buy another one EFA ________________________________________ Cherry Red 306 HDIChampionship White Integra DC5 Type R |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 16:03
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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i've never been stranded in any of my 306's regardless of problem, always been able to get it home  ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 16:09
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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bennn wrote: eliotrw wrote: The s4 is in my opinion not the performance all rpunded the m3 is. Its slightly understeery in comparison. Id be all over a E46. They are likely to become more sortafter over the years as well and i really dont see them falling in price any time soon Out of curiousity have you driven both cars? Or is it the internets opinion? I can see E46's continuing to drop in price as there are still a lot about. If you're concered bout depreciation I'd go for an E36 Evo. Driven both, M3 is in my opinion a class above. Good manuals will hold their value now for a while. The E46 is probably the second best M3 and has one of the best engines ever in my opinion. Id love an E36 EVO though as they have a certain stealth appeal. Its a performance bargain at around 8500 for a good early manual. ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 16:39
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #25
I think the m3 I drove was brilliant, loved the smg gearbox. Round here it seens everyone has got them. I think the e39 looks older than it is to be honest I have considered it. It does seem for the price the audi is cheaper in general________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 15th Jul 2014 at 18:28
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