seen this a while back on PH , £7000 in all fairness aint a bad price for that.
best part of 300bhp is quick in anything, in a 205 must be s**t scary

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Looking at the engine graph it doesn't seem to make much sense revving it past 8k, just change gear?! bo***cks to revving it that hard and rebuilding it once a month!

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I've been in this and it's amazingly FAST!! Nothing special before 5k then after that all hell breaks loose!!!!

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Keep it on the boil and it will fly.

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If you were to change at 8k and lose say 1500 rpm you'll be back at roughly 230 bhp, take it to 9500 and drop 1500 you'll stay up around the 270 bhp mark looking at that graph so I'd imagine there would be quite a considerable difference in performance. Surely that's the reason for the high rev limit?

I've Seen this at pugfest and it does look like it goes very well, considerably faster between the corners than any other na 205 I saw go up there fair play.

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Not seen this one but seen Chris's similar powered 306 rallye a few times and again is certainly quick for a n/a car but again like this one it is subtle low down but mental in the higher rpms.

What torque does your build produce ash? Was watching the vid of you against that kit car round Mallory and your car looks superb

And I wonder what's meant by a 'rebuild' every 1.5k? Just the big end bearings or more do you think?

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In that case yeah, doesn't seem much point going much over 8. I assumed he was on fairly standard gearing going off his ad of 163 in 5th which I guessed he meant 6th.

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Because you've got to be some kind of r-tard to put 25k into a French hatchback. Oh wait, I've done something similar....

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"New" V6 you say,

You had my interest, Now you have my attention....
Go on..

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As impressive as 285HP is from an XU engine and it's no doubt a quick car but if you look at real world driving the build of this engine is far from ideal.

It revs to 9,500 or whatever (can't read the graph very well) So to keep it on the boil you'll need to be revving it right upto this otherwise it'll drop to much and the torque isn't there at 4,000rpm.
Revving it to this then means it will no doubt be high maintenance so you'd be more inclined to rev it to 8,000 unless your 'showing off' at say Pugfest. I know if this was my engine id be caucious of how much I'd constantly rev it.
However revving it to 8,000 then will most likely take it off the boil and become fustrating.
On circuit I've learned over the years that it's much smoother, faster and kinder on the car to be exiting bends in a higher gear and at 4,500-5,000 then rely on a torquey lump to keep it going.
A good example of this would be Tony Dolly's 206 which races in the Castle Combe Saloons which used to have a famous Longman Engine and was no doubt quick. Sandy had the opertunity to build/rebuild it for him and the end result was lapping 2 seconds quicker. It didn't make any more power but the mid range was massively improved and the end result showed. Then there's the Will Dicalaudio GMC engine in his 106 then Sandy built one and a similar story to Tony Dolly's one.

The graph is also calculated/corrected power which is meaningless. Be interesting to see the WHP or a proper Dyno report. It makes you think the 300hp is more of a marketing thing along with the 'wow it revs to 9,500' when people walk past at a show.

Impressive car but could be made so much better!

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