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Author Subject: Sunroof Seal
Lecktorious

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Post #1
Any ideas where I can get a new seal? Been on Service Box and a new glass (which I assume has the seal attached) is £389.22 inc VAT Roll eyes

Any suggestions for a repair would be appreciated too. Not keen on using a second hand glass with seal as there is no guarantee it would last and I I can't be arsed doing this job again in the winter.

Already thought about blanking the sunroof but would rather keep it for the summer if I can stop it leaking.

Thanks all Thumbs up

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Posted 16th Dec 2013 at 23:58
gilesy

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Post #2
Have you made sure the sunroof drains are clear?
Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 00:09
Lecktorious

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Post #3
Yep, they are all clear and the aerial base is fine too. With the headlining out you can see the water begin overflow and drip down from the frame.

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Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 00:15
pugheaven

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Post #4
As far as I know the sunroofs don't seal ??
Your drains must be partially blocked as they are quite large diameter drain pipes so should be able to get rid of the water quicker than it fills up
Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 09:45
Lecktorious

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Post #5
pugheaven wrote:
As far as I know the sunroofs don't seal ??
Your drains must be partially blocked as they are quite large diameter drain pipes so should be able to get rid of the water quicker than it fills up


There's a spongey kind of seal that runs around the glass of the sunroof. I've ran water down each drain and the water runs freely, but in heavy rain more water gets past the seal than the drains can handle.

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Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 09:50
RetroPug

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Post #6
Have you looked at/tried post #4?
http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=157277

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61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread
Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 10:25
Lecktorious

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Post #7
RetroPug wrote:


Thanks mate, will give that a shot. I had cleaned the sunroof seal previously so assumed I had disturbed the seal and stopped it holding most of the water out.

You can see the water is appearing from the plastic where it is bonded to the metal frame:



Will try sealing it and hopefully that does it Thumbs up

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Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 13:08
superchargedblack1997gti6

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Post #8
balls my new car is doing this as well! looks like another lovely job to do. good luck with you'res

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Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 21:01
scotzman

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Post #9
Don't use it in the rain...works with my 205 Smile

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Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 21:09
superchargedblack1997gti6

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Post #10
it's my everyday wish it didn't have a sunroof Tbh!

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Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 21:17
Lecktorious

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Post #11
scotzman wrote:
Don't use it in the rain...works with my 205 Smile


Yeah I would be walking everywhere in that case then, probably getting wetter too! LOL

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Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 21:58
scotzman

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Lecktorious wrote:
scotzman wrote:
Don't use it in the rain...works with my 205 Smile


Yeah I would be walking everywhere in that case then, probably getting wetter too! LOL

hmmmm, and when I do use it, it breaks downUnsure

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Posted 17th Dec 2013 at 22:02
RetroPug

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Post #13
Lecktorious wrote:
I'd cleaned the sunroof seal previously so assumed I had disturbed the seal and stopped it holding most of the water out.

I believe that even when you've got a good seal working correctly it isn't a complete, guaranteed, 100% water tight seal due to the sunroof not always closing completely precisely etc. This is the case on the 106 anyway, hence the basin to collect water and the tubes to carry it away.

If your seal is good and intact and you pour water over the sunroof when closed properly and not that much is coming through, and the drainage tubes carry water away from the basin effectively, I'd say that he problem is that the basin isn't perfectly sealed and is letting water come through it as well as out of the drain tubes. In any case if water is coming out there then it is worth blocking that bit up regardless of whether or not that is the main leak!

Please let me know if this is effective as I've recently acquired a 306 with a leaky sunroof or aerial base and have been driving around with it taped up until I have time to sort it over the christmas period. I managed to fix the terrible mechanical one on my old 106 which also needed a new seal but I've never looked at a 306 one.

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Posted 18th Dec 2013 at 15:30
Lecktorious

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Post #14
2 hour drive to my mates in a blizzard and water was running in constantly. Problem solved for the meantime...



LOL

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Posted 23rd Dec 2013 at 14:20
ryangti6

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Post #15
You'll want to be very carefull pulling that back off mate or it'll pull the laquer off with it if It's like the stuff I've got.

My sunroof on my old car used to be odd, close it from tilted and it would leak but if you closed it from the sliding position it wouldn't, at least not noticeably anyway. Something easy worth trying.

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Ryan
Posted 23rd Dec 2013 at 16:47
RetroPug

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Post #16
I've been driving around with black & yellow danger tape around mine since November. Will be fixing it soon though, not sure whether it is the aerial or the sunroof yet!

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61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread
Posted 24th Dec 2013 at 13:13
Lecktorious

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Post #17
RetroPug wrote:
I've been driving around with black & yellow danger tape around mine since November. Will be fixing it soon though, not sure whether it is the aerial or the sunroof yet!


At least mine is a bit more subtle! LOL

I'll let you know what it is mate. It's looking like the frame just now though.

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Posted 24th Dec 2013 at 14:04
scotzman

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Graham, glad you're keeping dry but the sticky stuff from that tape will be a nightmare to remove if you leave it too long, nice neat job btw.Razz

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Posted 24th Dec 2013 at 16:37
Lecktorious

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Post #19
scotzman wrote:
Graham, glad you're keeping dry but the sticky stuff from that tape will be a nightmare to remove if you leave it too long, nice neat job btw.Razz


I'll use some heat for assistance...provided by a tank of petrol and a match no doubt.

If you're gonna bodge it, bodge it right Thumbs up

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'98 Nile Blue 306 GTi 6
Posted 24th Dec 2013 at 16:38
Lecktorious

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Post #20
Well I finally got to the bottom of my leak. Took the sunroof out to find this:



The foam type seal had come away from the plastic frame and water was getting in underneath it and running down the frame. Going by the silicone stuck to the seal it's been an ongoing problem that no-one has bothered to fix properly :roll

Cleaned the seal up, dried it out and glued it back to the frame. Then ran a bead of silicone between the seal and frame, and a bead around the seal too, so hopefully it won't pull away from the frame now Smile

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'98 Nile Blue 306 GTi 6
Posted 1st Feb 2014 at 15:25
monty-69

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Post #21
. My gti6 had a leak from the sunroof frame itself. Without removing the entire sunroof it looks like the frame is made in a few pieces and sealed on the joins with some kind of mastic sealant that never fully sets. It is hard to get silicone to bond round here so maybe best to apply some similar sealant over existing beads.

I guess that foam seal you mention is the one that seals the frame to the roof.

Water is designed to leak past the glass into the channel and down the drains. It should only ever pour over the channel if a drain is restricted.
Posted 1st Feb 2014 at 16:41
mattgti6phase2

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Post #22
My sunroof was letting water in after heavy prolonged rain periods. I cleaned the gutters etc but it continued.

So i rubbed vasoline into the seal and it's been fine ever since Thumbs up

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