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 pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Has anyone or does anyone know of a good auto electrician that can loom my entire car fromscratch?Iv got rid of most the unwanted wires but no matter what I do it still looks messy? Iv tried spiral rap, electrical tape, convuluted tubing but it still looks messy! If I was to fit everything and they came and made me new looms, fuse and relay box etc and then heat shrinked the lot with new connectors i think I would be happy  |
 Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 13:20
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #2
That would be a hell of a lot of money! Your looking at over £200 for a fairly basic engine loom and thats with generic plugs that you can pick up most places. Don't forget most of the interior plugs are pug only so will be quite a cost there alone to get all of them let alone all the other materials. |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 13:34
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #3
I know it's not going to be cheap but it should be worth it, surely I can change all the plugs of I'm having all the looms done, im not bothered if they are different, evennthe main bulk head one can be changed, just a lot of unnecessary looms and routing that I would like removed and tidied up, surely a kit car has similar to what I'm after? |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 13:43
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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think bic is the contact - wizard race looms possibly if they're still around________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 14:17
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
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pugheaven wrote: If I was to fit everything and they came and made me new looms, fuse and relay box etc and then heat shrinked the lot with new connectors i think I would be happy I can't imagine anyone wanting to do this in situ. I'm pretty sure you'd have to take the car to their workshop and leave it with them. I reckon you'll be looking well into 4 figures for this. ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 14:23
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
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yep I had a quote Ollie from some chap from symtec about 3-4 years ago for my subaru and it was £2300+vat? buy yourself a roll of shrinkwrap and do the best you can do.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 14:36
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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I had sandy wire my whole car from scratch a couples back. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 15:02
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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Wire wizards do custom looms________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 15:03
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #9
how much you looking at Ash as my cars going to be in bits next week so would be the perfect time to get it done if it's not ridiculous money ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 15:19
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Iv got rich306 coming round to have a look and see what he thinks, I could get aircraft rotary connectors for it all which would be smart but not sure if people would have the crimping tools needed, if I could de-pin all the original connectors and heat shrink it I would but from past experience they don't positively lock back into the plugs after :-( |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 15:28
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Depends what is left in the car really, the std loom can be made to look fairly neat having done a couple this wayYou would want the dash out thou as you can hide allot behind there, The instruments if std would be a pain, it's bad enough finding crimps for 205's with half the connections on them, Service box is pretty U/S for that ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 19:38
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rich306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Portsmouth Registered: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 1,834 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I've had a good look at what needs doing, i do believe we have a few ideas in mind.  ________________________________________ Richies Project RallyeElectrical work carried out in Portsmouth jamiek_uk2000 wrote: - Top Tip!!! You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 20:25
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Its relatively straight forward to do yourself. Just do wiring diagrams for each section before hand, and make sure you include everything you want or may need in the future in the loom as adding in afterwards is a pain, and makes it look untidy again. You'd be surprised how few wires you actually need. If you use rcd's instead of fuses you can do away with all the relays etc and just wire the rcds straight to the component. Or you could use a membrane panel but there £££'s!I have a DMC AFM8 and some turrets which I use for Deutsch AS connectors, but you can use with others. I'd be willing to lend it to you on receipt of a sensible deposit! ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 20:30
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #14
would you be interested in doing one on mine Richard?________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 20:30
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Iv stripped a lot of the looms to the bare minimum already, I just don't like the fact the main interior loom goes all the way round the inside of the car just to get from one door to the other, if I did away with central locking etc I would just have the 6 or 7 wires I have for rear lights, hand brake and fuel pump! |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 21:27
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Pete I have no clue what your on about buddy lol |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 20:39
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Lol, you mean the AFM8?! Its a crimp tool for aerospace electrical connectors, Deutsch AS connectors were made for the eurofighter but are often used in top end motorsport systems, but might be overkill for what you're wanting! If you're interested let me know, I have a box of connectors, pins, sockets and stuff but its not cheap stuff... http://www.m-cal.com/ they sell a lot of stuff... ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 20:51
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Ah I see, I could borrow them from work if I go down that route, I already have the little white and red plastic tool to insert remove the pins from the connectors but that's about it...As my work have the contract for changing all the Chinooks from analogue to digital cockpits they are binning hundreds of connectors that I could probably get hold of but its probably not worth me taking them as I could loose my job over it  I kind of wish I was a fairy at work and not a mec but after seeing all the spaghetti looms they have to play with I think it would drive me crazy lolThanks for the offer tho bud |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 23:34
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Ah, didn't realise you could get hold of them that easily! I like wiring, dunno why but I find it quite calming, although I've never had to rewire a Chinook! ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 21:32
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rich306
Seasoned Pro Location: Portsmouth Registered: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 1,834 Status: Offline |
Post #20
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: would you be interested in doing one on mine Richard? I'll let you know how this one goes haha ________________________________________ Richies Project RallyeElectrical work carried out in Portsmouth jamiek_uk2000 wrote: - Top Tip!!! You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time |
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Posted 9th Nov 2013 at 22:52
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