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daver6

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Post #1
So, I decided to go for a late night drive and the car starts running on three and losing power so I turn around and head home slowly.

Then there's lots of noise, the engine cuts out and there's steam everywhere.

The timing side is covered in oil. I'll have a better look tomorrow, but I half expect a snapped belt and an oil hose cut

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Posted 3rd Nov 2013 at 23:29
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Sounds like it could have thrown a rod to me. You didn't go through any large puddles, did you?

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Posted 4th Nov 2013 at 00:05
daver6

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no puddles at all Sad

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Posted 4th Nov 2013 at 07:21
rich306

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Post #4
Ouch, expensive fix! New engine time!

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You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
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Posted 4th Nov 2013 at 07:48
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I'm leaning towards the same thoughts as Rich - especially since you have oil everywhere.

Have you inspected the block in daylight yet this morning and see if you can see any holes?
It sounds as if possibly the small end failed (meaning the piston stopping and you then running on three) followed shortly by the now loose rod smashing it's way through the crankcase. Sad

It might not be, but it's difficult to find a plausible answer to it suddenly running on three, followed by loads of noise, cut out and steaming, covered in oil.

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Posted 4th Nov 2013 at 07:52
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Post #6
Same happened to me,..

oil spreyed everywhere and blew the rubber seal from the oil filter
I'd spun a shell and the bottom end was FUBAR'd Sad

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Posted 4th Nov 2013 at 08:03
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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Obviously, without further investigation we don't know exactly what's failed as of yet.

However, if a small end has failed or a bearing shell has picked up and spun, questions have to be asked, why. It's an unusual failure, so I'd be interested to know the failure reason assuming that the engine has failed in this way. Yes

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Posted 4th Nov 2013 at 08:29
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if there's no physical damage to the block then I'd surmise a pressure buildup,..
did you not get any warning lights up Dave?

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Posted 4th Nov 2013 at 08:37
daver6

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no warning lights at all

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Posted 4th Nov 2013 at 10:55
daver6

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Post #10
No warning lights or sounds really!

But cylinder #1 is has smashed the plug to s**t so definitely a rod issue there!

Time to fit one of my spares now Sad

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Posted 4th Nov 2013 at 12:24
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well at least you have a spare to fit Smile

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Posted 4th Nov 2013 at 13:11
daver6

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gnrlee wrote:
well at least you have a spare to fit Smile


Yeah, I'll get the car to work tomorrow and start stripping the front end unless I can't contain my excitement, in which case I'll get the head off first

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Posted 5th Nov 2013 at 19:39
rich306

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daver6 wrote:
gnrlee wrote:
well at least you have a spare to fit Smile


Yeah, I'll get the car to work tomorrow and start stripping the front end unless I can't contain my excitement, in which case I'll get the head off first


Haha go for it Thumbs up

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 6th Nov 2013 at 08:00
gnrlee Forum Admin

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Do eeet!,..

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Posted 6th Nov 2013 at 08:06
daver6

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well I had a better look at the engine.today at work. it would appear I have some welding on the front.of the block to do......

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Posted 7th Nov 2013 at 17:44
pug_306

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I have a good bare engine if your interested ? With a good non tapping head :-0 Regards

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Posted 7th Nov 2013 at 18:07
jimmyhackers

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im feeling for you atm, my cars killed itself last night in a puddle

hope you get it fixed

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Posted 7th Nov 2013 at 18:28
daver6

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I'm annoyed, but not really all that bothered. I was planning on using the 205 this winter and taking the Rallye off the road, but aye, I wish it hadn't happened.

Pug_306, thanks but I have a few spare engines Smile

Jimmy, you got a low filter/rallye blank

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Posted 7th Nov 2013 at 18:48
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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Post #19
Hmm

So it threw a rod then...any ideas as to why? Dunno

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Posted 7th Nov 2013 at 19:35

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