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matt16v

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Post #1
Hi everyone,

Had this problem before but thought it was a one off, came back this morning to haunt me. Basically, I turn the key and get all the right lights, crank it and and nothing happens. Not a click or anything. Had a bit of a poke around but still couldn't seem to get her to start. Tried again after 10 minutes and she jumps to life no problems and she's been fine since.

Battery is fine and when it actually turns, starter seems fine. I'm guessing it's something to do with the wiring to the starter.

Anyone got any ideas? Had a look for the starter but can't see it, I'm told it's under the inlet manifold so would assume this has to come out to get at it.

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Posted 14th Oct 2013 at 18:27
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rich306

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Starter motor mate, i've just literally changed mine to a diesel one. Sorted it out thankfully.

Smile exactly the same issues you're having.

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
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Posted 14th Oct 2013 at 18:32
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Yep, sounds like the starter. Yes

Inlet manifold off to do it. Yes

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Posted 14th Oct 2013 at 18:43
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rich306

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Be careful you don't split the injector O-rings in the process Wink
Just like i have!

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 14th Oct 2013 at 22:22
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bigbadbowen

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rich306 wrote:
Be careful you don't split the injector O-rings in the process Wink
Just like i have!


And you disturbed the injectors why ?
Posted 14th Oct 2013 at 22:25
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rich306

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Took them out removing the inlet manifold... probably didn't to (looking back) but its how i've always done it haha.

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 15th Oct 2013 at 07:23
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stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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LOL

Injectors/fuel rail do not need to be touched.

All that needs doing is to undo and remove the supply and return fuel lines from the rail. Yes

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Posted 15th Oct 2013 at 08:30
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rich306

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I know that for next time haha, sorted it all out now thankfully. Cured my fuel leak!

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 15th Oct 2013 at 20:18
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sixysix

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Post #9
Bit late I know, but fully agree on the starter being at fault.
Had to change mine at the start of the year and had to do it twice as the first new replacement was a dud Sad

Pretty straight forward to do and took me about 45 mins to swap over.
One of the bolts holding the starter on takes a bit of time to remove due to access but thats it really.

Oh, and get a new inlet manifold gasket as well while you are doing it Thumbs up

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Posted 16th Oct 2013 at 11:48
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rich306 wrote:
Starter motor mate, i've just literally changed mine to a diesel one. Sorted it out thankfully.

Smile exactly the same issues you're having.


When you say diesel one, is it one to fit a 2.0 hdi 306? It a lot more powerful for starting the car?
Posted 16th Oct 2013 at 19:05
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I would fit the 1.9D Turbo personally if I was still running standard compression. Yes

And yes, it fires the engine over much, much quicker. Smile

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Posted 16th Oct 2013 at 20:22
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rich306

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stan_306gti6 wrote:
I would fit the 1.9D Turbo personally if I was still running standard compression. Yes

And yes, it fires the engine over much, much quicker. Smile


I second the above... again... LOL

I have been very very very impressed with how quick the engine turns out now that i have fitted this.

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 16th Oct 2013 at 21:52
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raunchz

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stan_306gti6 wrote:
I would fit the 1.9D Turbo personally if I was still running standard compression. Yes

And yes, it fires the engine over much, much quicker. Smile


Okay thanks, just looking online i guess the 1.9D is the 1.7kw starter vs the 1.1kw Rallye oem one?
Posted 16th Oct 2013 at 22:24
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rich306

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Yes

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 17th Oct 2013 at 07:47
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raunchz wrote:
stan_306gti6 wrote:
I would fit the 1.9D Turbo personally if I was still running standard compression. Yes

And yes, it fires the engine over much, much quicker. Smile


Okay thanks, just looking online i guess the 1.9D is the 1.7kw starter vs the 1.1kw Rallye oem one?


are they 'direct' fit? might throw one on my 6 engine in the 205 whilst it's accessible

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Posted 17th Oct 2013 at 08:12
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stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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Yep, they're are a direct bolt on fit Rikky.

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Posted 17th Oct 2013 at 09:58
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matt16v

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Post #17
Always felt it didn't turn over great compared to previous cars, have bought a 1.9 starter so look forward to getting it on and having it pounce into life.

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Posted 17th Oct 2013 at 22:40
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matt16v

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Well haven't had it since swapping it over so fingers crossed all will be okay. Got to vouch for the diesel starter motor, she jumps into life now! Really such a big difference, well worth doing (or paying someone to do like I did haha)

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Posted 13th Nov 2013 at 00:21
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