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| Author | Subject: 306 S16 whit GTI/Rallye Intake Manifold |
 devilchris
Newbie  Location: Siracusa Registered: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hello guys.I searched the forum but could not find any results. you can put the intake manifold of a 306 306 GTI-6/Rallye in a 306 S16 Le Mans? changes are required, or mount everything with ease? which injectors should I use? the S16 or GTI? the ECU has a trouble or need to remap? |
 Posted 25th Sep 2013 at 22:18
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #2
use your S16 injectors, gti manifold fits straight on, you need to find a way to fit the Bosch idle control solenoid. Ideally you will need to remap the ecu but not really worth it as gti mani wont give much of a gain, fit a better exhaust manifold-stock S16 cast manifold is rubbish, upgrade your cams and then remap it,you should see a decent gain after that |
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Posted 25th Sep 2013 at 23:10
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devilchris
Newbie Location: Siracusa Registered: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
Post #3
thanks for the reply.there is a tutorial? to fit the Bosch idle control solenoid? speaking of the cams are good the original model gti-6 or aftermarket? thanks |
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Posted 25th Sep 2013 at 23:24
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Just stick it on the inlet of the std ICV and remove the GTi6 one, Dead easy that wayCams have to be XU10J4 ones not R or RS cams, heads are very different, But the S16 engine is better to tune for the bolt on mods ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 26th Sep 2013 at 21:35
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Just stick it on the inlet of the std ICV and remove the GTi6 one, Dead easy that wayCams have to be XU10J4 ones not R or RS cams, heads are very different, But the S16 engine is better to tune for the bolt on mods ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 26th Sep 2013 at 21:37
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devilchris
Newbie Location: Siracusa Registered: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
Post #6
std ICV ???? |
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Posted 26th Sep 2013 at 21:45
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devilchris
Newbie Location: Siracusa Registered: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
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I bought this:http://www.ebay.it/itm/130969146857?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 and this: http://www.ebay.it/itm/310596979544?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 A complete inlet manifold with throttle body and injector + fuel rail .. What injectors should I use? those of the original S16. or those of the GTi? also ... I have to buy the fuel pump. what should I take? an original? I should be fitted with a fuel pressure regulator all this before making the eeprom centraliana. I forget something? there is something to do in addition to that written? |
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Posted 1st Oct 2013 at 14:17
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #8
that gasket isn't right________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 1st Oct 2013 at 14:23
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devilchris
Newbie Location: Siracusa Registered: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
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Posted 1st Oct 2013 at 14:31
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306dimma
Newbie  Location: Blaker Registered: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 26 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Las time i did this i use the complete S16 fuelrail and injectors cos this fits the positions of the fuel hoses better than gti-6. Useing gti-6 injectors without a remap didn`t work that well it ran a bit rich.The last gasket seems right  ________________________________________ LeaderPeugeot Sport Club OF Norway |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2013 at 13:28
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Use all the s16 parts, no gti 6 parts can be used without a remap, You will need one anyway as without it they do not run that well________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2013 at 21:48
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Use all the s16 parts, no gti 6 parts can be used without a remap, You will need one anyway as without it they do not run that well________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2013 at 21:49
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devilchris
Newbie Location: Siracusa Registered: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
Post #13
ok, in any case I have to remap the ECU. in this case which inniettori should I use? |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2013 at 22:34
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #14
i had a gti6 inlet setup on my old s16 and didn't have it remapped. although i didn't do many miles but it certainly felt and ran fine  "inniettori" looks like you're asking about injectors - use the s16 injectors ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2013 at 15:56
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306dimma
Newbie Location: Blaker Registered: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 26 Status: Offline |
Post #15
i had Rich_W flywheel too and my engine run smooth all the way to 7200rpm iteven felt likeit ran better than some gti-6 i had at the same time.and no remap. it might be the flrywheel thats my guess anyway.________________________________________ LeaderPeugeot Sport Club OF Norway |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2013 at 16:58
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devilchris
Newbie Location: Siracusa Registered: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
Post #16
I have not understood a thing .. I still need to map to the ECU ... I have to remap in any case .... use the ORIGINAL injectors or those of the GTI? |
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Posted 6th Oct 2013 at 22:44
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #17
You don't need to remap the ecu to use the original injectors but it will be better if you do.You will need to remap the ecu to use gti injectors. Hope that helps ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 7th Oct 2013 at 02:28
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devilchris
Newbie Location: Siracusa Registered: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
Post #18
ok ... thank you ... I have to remap anyway ... eeprom still has the original program ....that the fuel pump should I use? the fuel pressure regulator could do for you? thanks |
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Posted 7th Oct 2013 at 10:43
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devilchris
Newbie Location: Siracusa Registered: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Hello guys.I have a 306 S16. I disassembled the original intake manifold. I mounted the intake manifold of the 306 GTi. I'm stuck because I do not know how to connect some pipes. before I post the pictures and then I try to explain my doubts!        Speaking of the intake manifold S16 I understand that: 4 - the tube that sends the oil to the engine. 5 - are the two tubes that control the dual valve timing of the intake manifold. 6 - is a tube that arrives to the control unit to control the depression of the intake manifold. 7 - I do not know what is its function. 8 - I do not know what is its function. Speaking now of the intake manifold of the 306 GTi: 1 - I do not know! (I think it's a vacuum socket) 2 - is the aspiration for recycling oil vapors! (correct?) 3 - is the aspiration of air to keep the engine at idle. Now let's talk about what I did not understand. In the transition from collector to collector S16 GTI there are 2 or 3 small tubes that do not know where to connect. 5 - where do I connect the pipes n. 5 that in the collector S16 commanded the double timing? 6 - The tube n 6 arrives at the control unit. Where do I connect the collector of the GTI? 7 - Where do I connect the pipe n. 7 in the intake manifold of the 306 GTI? 1000 Thanks |
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Posted 9th Oct 2013 at 23:41
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devilchris
Newbie Location: Siracusa Registered: 28 Jan 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
Post #20
With a little patience and ingenuity I was able to do everything all over. The machine is fine. I only have one doubt.I have not connected the tube No. 8. I put a plug in the part where you put the engine oil. is that correct? |
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Posted 19th Oct 2013 at 21:38
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