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russbez

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box is out

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Sounds like the clutch is dragging to me causing it to be very difficult to get into gear.....Had this caused a few times by one of the 3 springs round the outer edge of the clutch cover snapping causing the cover plate to move in on one side and drag against the clutch.


this Yes

the Helix plate had been making noises, maybe contributed to damage of cover plate?
not really keen for refitting it

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Posted 10th Sep 2013 at 21:53
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Whack a picture up then?


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Posted 11th Sep 2013 at 19:59
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Post #28
russbez wrote:
box is out

armzs16 wrote:
Sounds like the clutch is dragging to me causing it to be very difficult to get into gear.....Had this caused a few times by one of the 3 springs round the outer edge of the clutch cover snapping causing the cover plate to move in on one side and drag against the clutch.


this Yes

the Helix plate had been making noises, maybe contributed to damage of cover plate?
not really keen for refitting it


Good aint I Wink lol. Glad you found an identifiable cause mate. As Carl says any pics now its out? I'm going high boost soon so would like to see what clutch not to buy lol.

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Posted 11th Sep 2013 at 20:07
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not sure what clutch to recommend tbh, i wasnt too hard on my 6 paddle Helix and Sachs Clutch cover.... perhaps the mapping sesh took a bit out of it?
I made it home okay thank f**k

Pictures of damaged Sachs cover





just refitted Standard Luk/Sachs Clutch for now
had already ordered new clutch cable to fitted that too

not sure if Helix plate will be safe to refit Unsure

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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 10:14
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Hard to see in pics but take it the outer spring has fallen to bits. Possibly the paddle clutch is a bit to harsh of a bite for the cover? Is it a 4 paddle or 6 paddle?
I'd be interested to know how you get on with a standard unit as I may just leave my standard Valeo on there for now. But I do Santa pod and pugfest and a few occasional track days dumping the clutch at 5k so might need a paddle...

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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 10:30
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6 paddle

yeh pictures could be better!

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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 10:43
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ohh i wouldnt do race strips
surely that would kill standard clutch

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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 10:38
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sad times!!

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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 10:50
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That's strange to be honest usually they don't snap the actual cover plate like that but snap the spring that attaches there in half. Same effect though clutch drag.
I've already done some clutch dumping at santapod and pugfest this year lol clutch stank a bit but it took it ok Wink. Imagine it will have a harder job once there's a diff in there and it can't just spin one wheel easy.

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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 19:00
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Hmm

I have a 4-paddle Helix friction plate in mine with a Sachs cover. Yes

However, when I was high boost I ran a standard Valeo item and it worked absolutely perfectly. Smile
Maybe you should just stick with that Pete/Russ. Yes

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Posted 14th Sep 2013 at 21:19
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I deff would do if I wasn't planing on doing the occasional launch /clutch dump lol. But it's taken it thus far so can't see a problem.

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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 18:41
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russbez wrote:



sad times!!


Atta boy that's what happened to mine and a few others I have worked on.


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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 20:50
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loving the standard clutch!!

dunno how long it will last though LOL

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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 21:15
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Still waiting for some videos mate?

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Posted 16th Sep 2013 at 10:01
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got a camera mount for taking videos the other day
need to get a good one of me blasting though gears and ill pm you a link or something
its getting pretty wet and s**tey up here though!

managed to scrape my intercooler pipe the other day Sad

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Posted 16th Sep 2013 at 10:32
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managed to scrape my intercooler pipe the other day Sad


This i hate!

If i ever get some time i might look at getting a custom radaitor made up so i can route the IC pipes in a different way Yes

I know Carl has done it with a smaller IC but id prefer to keep my IC and redesign the rad Yes

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Posted 16th Sep 2013 at 16:30
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russbez

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yeh same eh, what a noise it makes Shut up

twice i have done it now completely my fault

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Posted 16th Sep 2013 at 17:13
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I did it near silverstone the other day pulled into a parking space and didn't realise how high the kerb was at the end of the space..... Crunch!

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Posted 16th Sep 2013 at 21:48
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there is going to be no video this year Yes

im pretty sure clutch is slipping at high mph and high rpm

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Posted 19th Sep 2013 at 22:12
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there is going to be no video this year Yes

im pretty sure clutch is slipping at high mph and high rpm


That's odd Russ, I had a standard Valeo clutch using that engine you have there and never suffered any slip at all. I would prefer to use a standard clutch now if it were possible as the paddle can be very hard work, however it would never stand up to the torque produced by the current engine.

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Posted 20th Sep 2013 at 07:24
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its slipping pretty sure now Yes

nae fancying having a 360bhp ornament i cant actually accelerate passed 6k rpm

wonder if id be okay to use the old 6 paddle clutch after that clutch covers be rubbing on it unevenly?

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Posted 20th Sep 2013 at 10:36
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I wouldn't recommend refitting the paddle after ANY damage has occurred.

Best to buy new mate. Yes

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Posted 20th Sep 2013 at 11:03
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Maybe time for the full kit helix plate and cover? Think that's what Chris is using in his highboost Rallye?

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Posted 20th Sep 2013 at 11:04
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russbez

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yes chrisd had full setup in his track day Rallye

about town driving.... paddle and standard cover was bad enough Sad

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Posted 20th Sep 2013 at 11:27
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I also emailed Eccose (where i bought my Helix plate from) the situation to see what they say
Last time i attempted to contact Helix they would'nt speak to me

So hopefully they will be able to give me some advice or direct Helix to speak to me about prices

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Posted 20th Sep 2013 at 11:44
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