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drewhughes

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Post #1

Hey guys,

I'm looking to purchase another set of wheels, and my first choice for obvious reasons is the pro race 1.2 in 15".

I'm seeing a lot of people going for 16", and I keep thinking why? as tyres such as r888 and the a048's are cheaper in 15"?

Is it purely so that they can fit bigger brakes under the wheels? As I swear ive read the 406 brembo's fit under the 15" 1.2's?

Also what size n offset would I need to get a direct fit on my 6? also is there any reason why I shouldn't go for a direct fit wheel, and have spacers etc to widen the track.

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Drew

Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 09:33

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niw

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406 brembos fit under 15" 1.2's yes.

Go for ET15 and 7x15"

Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 09:40

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drewhughes

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Post #3

thats all I needed.

any spacer or spigots?

What discs do I need to use?

Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 09:44

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7057sam

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I run 288mm xantia v6 disk with my brembo s they sit nicely under my 1.2's

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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 20:20

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so the calipers bolt on with no brakets and use xantia disc's

thats it?

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Posted 11th Jul 2013 at 10:22

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welshpug!

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Post #6

yup, however the discs weigh a bladdy ton, some 2 kilos more than a gti6 disc, which negates the 2 kilo weight saving from the caliper.

unsprung weight is the same, however it is a lot of added rotating weight and expense.

if you get direct fit wheels you dont need spacers or spigots.

you'll need longer brake hoses.

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Posted 11th Jul 2013 at 10:41

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eliotrw

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Which is why i am getting rotors made for when i fit the 807 calipers. The discs weigh some unholy amount

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Posted 12th Jul 2013 at 22:37

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spiky

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Post #8

brake hoses not an issue Smile

2kilo is a quite a lot

sounds like rotors is needed there,

do they squeal with this setup?

i'm pretty sure my 3 sets of wheels will clear the calipers of as they clear my AP 2 pot's ok, with plenty of room

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Posted 15th Jul 2013 at 09:37

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niw

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drewhughes wrote:

thats all I needed.

any spacer or spigots?

What discs do I need to use?

Normally spigot rings will be included when you buy 1,2's, but if not, just go for these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPIGOT-RINGS-FOR-73-1-65-1MM-FOR-PEUGEOT-306-/140960204471?

Xantia/C5 V6 discs are fine, but may squeel Wink

Posted 15th Jul 2013 at 10:24

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footah212

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My thoughts would be to keep the standard brakes, put some good pads in there and buy some c5 steels.

If the car is stripped and running standard power that should be ample and fairly cheap + easy.

It will obviously look a bit s**t but your not doing a trackday to look good.

Only my opinion of course.

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Posted 31st Jul 2013 at 18:55

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spiky

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I used to run c5 wheels in my 205 track car, I took them off as the brakes weren't getting enought cooling, no issues now

So don't recommend for track

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Posted 31st Jul 2013 at 19:08

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spiky wrote:

I used to run c5 wheels in my 205 track car, I took them off as the brakes weren't getting enought cooling, no issues now

So don't recommend for track

I've never had that issue but then again i'm not running [edit 268]bhp. Wish i was mind Thumbs up

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Posted 31st Jul 2013 at 19:18

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spiky

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Few friends had the same issue, on the road they will be fine, but lap after lap properly in it, brakes won't cope,

Though did have another mate that was running them and was fine

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Posted 31st Jul 2013 at 19:37

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footah212 wrote:

Look alright to me Wink

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Posted 22nd Aug 2013 at 11:33

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I wouldn't use steelies on dry trackdays from past experience, i had standard power and ducting to help cool them.

If you are determined you can get decent sized brakes under 15" 1.2's. Yes

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Posted 22nd Aug 2013 at 21:06

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Yep I agree my Rallye has hi spec 4 pots under 15 inch team dynamics. Awesome brakes

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Posted 22nd Aug 2013 at 21:09

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3rd time lucky wrote:

footah212 wrote:

Look alright to me Wink

Still not convinced that looks good , mine are all black admittedly. Best put another wheel bolt in there before you go on track Thumbs up

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Posted 22nd Aug 2013 at 23:33

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3rd time lucky

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i wont be using them on track at all. Ive put my locking wheel nut in now Wink

I will also be looking at getting some ducting sorted to cool the brakes as i'll be keeping standard setup with decent pads.

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Posted 23rd Aug 2013 at 08:57

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Lose you're fog lights. Wink

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Posted 23rd Aug 2013 at 20:16

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I have a set of td 1.2 with toyo t1r 195 50 15 for sale if you interested.

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Posted 25th Aug 2013 at 12:49

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Got some part worn yoko a048s in 15" if your interested mate.

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Posted 26th Aug 2013 at 15:02

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Cheers for the offers guys but i wont have the car ready untill next spring/summer. I'll be looking for some wheels and tyres then Thumbs up

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Posted 26th Aug 2013 at 17:58

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7057sam

How much? Only require rims really though. They direct pug fit?

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Posted 26th Aug 2013 at 18:49

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Ray Finkle

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if im running a Peugeot 15x6 rim what tyre size can I safely go to or should I stick with some semi slick 195 55 15?

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Posted 18th Nov 2013 at 15:06

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aaron6 wrote:

Lose you're fog lights. Wink

Also loose the bang on balance weight on the outside look gash

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