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 pete-gti
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi people for last few months my supercharg 6 has been playing up some times it will just stall on idle or revs will keep going up and down and when driving between 2k and 3k seems to bog then come back to life, I've changed every sensor I can i think off so far. Map sensor, icv, TBS , lamba , coolant sensor, really starting get annoyed hope some one can shed some light on it |
 Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:03
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birk
Seasoned Pro  Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Air leak________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo = Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:03
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Alright OK what on the supercharger side? Boost pipes ? |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:04
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #4
hard to say man you would have to check yourselfdoes it do the dodgy idle when cold?? i had a airleak where my supercharger was welded onto the pipework was total ball ache idle was awful when car was well warmed up... and intermittently at that! my top engine mount had crack and caused excessive movement thus cracking the weld at supercharger outlet used to have a video of it somewhere ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:08
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #5
If from cold it will idle fine for about 5minutes then revs will start to move about either going up or try to stall, but it don't always do it, some times when you come to lights it will idle fine, but between to 2k and 3k when around town its starting to splutter , if you put your foot down it clears it, so it could be air leak? |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:14
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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russbez wrote: hard to say man you would have to check yourself does it do the dodgy idle when cold?? i had a airleak where my supercharger was welded onto the pipework was total ball ache idle was awful when car was well warmed up... and intermittently at that! my top engine mount had crack and caused excessive movement thus cracking the weld at supercharger outlet used to have a video of it somewhere Same happened to mine, except it was the top mount that came apart somehow, causing it. Ran awful, and was stalling all over ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:17
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Top engine mount? |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:20
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
Post #8
It could be an air leak, you could try searching for it with some carb cleaner.I have a similar problem on mine, idle's fine for a few minutes and then starts to stutter a bit. Also hesitates on accleration at certain revs. With an air leak i had always assumed it would stutter from startup rather than after a few minutes? Did you change all the sensors for new ones? Changing the MAP improved the problems i was having somewhat but i also think the lambda needs changing, they seem to have both failed around the same time. ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:25
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,991 Status: Offline |
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pete-gti wrote: Top engine mount? Slightly up from where your Supercharger is, where the engine is mounted to the bodywork. ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:26
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
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rallyestyle wrote: It could be an air leak, you could try searching for it with some carb cleaner. this!! i cannot remember how i used it (it was 2/3 years ago) i sprayed it on the suspect joint rev'd the engine while watching the joint cannot remember what the result was.... whether i noticed a small discharge from joint or my engine idle changed dam getting old  ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:27
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
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rallyestyle wrote: pete-gti wrote: Top engine mount? Slightly up from where your Supercharger is, where the engine is mounted to the bodywork. few pictures of top mount on this thread http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=123625&page=1 might be worth checking silicone joints too but if they were damaged or ripped id imagine it would be idle like crap all the time ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:31
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Yea I no where it is, but my Mount was changed couple years back, will have look, if you boot it it goes fine, just seems lower down rev range where problems are, really starting to annoy me , some times revs will sit at about 1200 and keep moving up and down, will check all boost pipes and top mount, but I think there fine |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:33
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Yea changed for all new dealer sensors, just annoying me so much now spent like 300 on new sensors |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 13:35
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Mine did the same when i had an air leak at the manifold to head join with my ptfe gasket.________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 14:53
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Alright mite look at the air. Inlet manifold then, so all problems I've said that's what you had birk? |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 15:15
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mr west
Senior User  Location: herts Registered: 13 Sep 2010 Posts: 742 Status: Offline |
Post #16
sounds like air leak as all above say, spray carb cleaner on all intake joins/pipes(one place at a time) when idleing if the revs pick up then that's where your leak is________________________________________ white rallyecherry dead rallye s16 |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 16:18
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Moved to Engines. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 16:38
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #18
OK will check will joints with carb. Cleaner and see what happens, :-) |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 16:41
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
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If you get stuck come see me next weekend with Aaron6 off here. I can code read the car and have a full set of low boost pipe joiners kicking about. Pete.________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 20:10
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Also I've noticed a considerable improvement in the idle of my supercharged 6 lately. It was forever stalling almost as if the idle valve didn't even try to catch it. Lately only engine related things I've done is change the restrictor ring in the charger for one that's 0.8mm larger and welded up the top engine mount. Also fitted a baker bm lower mount. Don't see how mounts would affect the idle unless the engine was all over the place. Most likely an air leak or dodgy ICV. Do you have a lightened fly and crank pulley? ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 25th Jun 2013 at 20:17
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Yea. Got lighter flywheel and crank pully, yea mite stick old icv back in but I'm sure its not that, all mounts where upgraded couple years back so sure it not that, I need to get it plunged in and see if its reading anythik |
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Posted 26th Jun 2013 at 13:00
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Try unplugging the power steering sensor and see what happens. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Jun 2013 at 15:52
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Done a proper ecu reset and seems OK but next few days will tell, yea I unplugged the pas sensor revs where still rising slowly and down before I did a reset |
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Posted 26th Jun 2013 at 18:06
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pete-gti
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Little update people, I don't think I was doin my ecu reset right , I followed the instructions on here and since then car has been running spot on, took it out for couple hours drive today and didn't miss a beat, idle spot on, so hopefully fingers crossed its solved :-) |
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Posted 27th Jun 2013 at 15:48
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #25
pete-gti wrote: Little update people, I don't think I was doin my ecu reset right , I followed the instructions on here and since then car has been running spot on, took it out for couple hours drive today and didn't miss a beat, idle spot on, so hopefully fingers crossed its solved :-) This is good news, let's hope it stays this way. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Jun 2013 at 19:17
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