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ive got the chance of the above from a guy breaking an escort cossie. comes with loom and sensors etc. he assures me its not been locked.
anyone had any experience with the Pectels?
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 JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
he assures me its not been locked. anyone had any experience with the Pectels? |
 Posted 21st Feb 2013 at 08:29
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #2
this ecu needs a crank trigger wheel with only 4 counting teeth, has anyone on here ever ran a stand alone with a custom trigger setup other than the 60-2? i'm trying to work out a way to mount a 4 tooth trigger to the crank pulley |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2013 at 20:51
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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People on here who have run the BTCC engines have run the 4 tooth counter on the crank pulley.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2013 at 00:19
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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Best find someone who can map that ecu before you buy it dude |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2013 at 01:49
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #5
AVA in glasgow can map it. they do alot of cosworth stuff and some of the cars including a 106 run with Pectel |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2013 at 07:25
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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are they any good though.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2013 at 07:52
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
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Am sure AVA can point you in the right direction. Am sure there was a lad down here who ran a richard longman btcc spec engine ran a 4 tooth trigger setup. Remember talking to a mate who bought it and only had the car 3 weeks and gave him it back because off all the problems he was having! Dont know if it had anything to do with the ecu tho. Will see what i can find out________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2013 at 07:55
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #8
i'd appreciate that chris, especially info on 4 tooth crank pulley. Pectel is highly regarded amongst the big power cosworth scene. granted the T2 is a bit old now, think the latest version is the T6. im only considering pectel as i can have ecu, loom (which will obv need altering) all sensors, relays, another ser of 803 greens and the boost control valve for a measly £500! ecu alone new is around 1200. |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2013 at 08:02
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: are they any good though. AVA know what they are doing. |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2013 at 08:03
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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sure? how many pugs do they map?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2013 at 08:08
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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they mainly map fords but surely they can map a low-ish boost gti6. |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2013 at 08:22
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #12
The BTCC engines did run a 4 tooth trigger wheel mounted on the AUX pulley. Some I have seen run a 4+1 tooth setup also, both sets ups also ran a cam trigger. This was in conjunction with a EFi ecu which is probably where he was having issues. The EFi stuff is top notch stuff, like the Pectels but is really suitable for professional use only imo due to the complexity of it. If I were you I'd get a DTA S60, its what I ran my btcc engine with in the end, and I managed to get it running and idling cleanly before taking it to the mappers without any real previous experience of mapping, although I know the theory behind it. It will cost you a bit more than the Pectel stuff but worth it. I ran the DTA on a trigger wheel also mounted on the aux pulley, but a 48-1 I think it was, something like that. Do Pectel still support the ecu you're buying? I had some PI research stuff that was great but PI don't support it, so no help when it goes wrong. Also, check out the prices of other stuff you need, ie comms cables. The cable for an EFi ecu is something like £450+vat, just so I can get the data from it! Hence I sold that and bought a DTA for only a bit more than just the cable would cost... ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 28th Feb 2013 at 23:35
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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pete_rallye wrote: The BTCC engines did run a 4 tooth trigger wheel mounted on the AUX pulley. Some I have seen run a 4+1 tooth setup also, both sets ups also ran a cam trigger. This was in conjunction with a EFi ecu which is probably where he was having issues. The EFi stuff is top notch stuff, like the Pectels but is really suitable for professional use only imo due to the complexity of it. If I were you I'd get a DTA S60, its what I ran my btcc engine with in the end, and I managed to get it running and idling cleanly before taking it to the mappers without any real previous experience of mapping, although I know the theory behind it. It will cost you a bit more than the Pectel stuff but worth it. I ran the DTA on a trigger wheel also mounted on the aux pulley, but a 48-1 I think it was, something like that. Do Pectel still support the ecu you're buying? I had some PI research stuff that was great but PI don't support it, so no help when it goes wrong. Also, check out the prices of other stuff you need, ie comms cables. The cable for an EFi ecu is something like £450+vat, just so I can get the data from it! Hence I sold that and bought a DTA for only a bit more than just the cable would cost... thats all very interesting and helpful, cheers. yes, i would also have to run a double tooth trigger on the cam for the phase sensor. dont suppose you have any pics of aux pulley/crank sensor? £450 for a comms lead??? |
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Posted 1st Mar 2013 at 07:26
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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pete_rallye wrote: The BTCC engines did run a 4 tooth trigger wheel mounted on the AUX pulley. Some I have seen run a 4+1 tooth setup also, both sets ups also ran a cam trigger. This was in conjunction with a EFi ecu which is probably where he was having issues. The EFi stuff is top notch stuff, like the Pectels but is really suitable for professional use only imo due to the complexity of it. If I were you I'd get a DTA S60, its what I ran my btcc engine with in the end, and I managed to get it running and idling cleanly before taking it to the mappers without any real previous experience of mapping, although I know the theory behind it. It will cost you a bit more than the Pectel stuff but worth it. I ran the DTA on a trigger wheel also mounted on the aux pulley, but a 48-1 I think it was, something like that. Do Pectel still support the ecu you're buying? I had some PI research stuff that was great but PI don't support it, so no help when it goes wrong. Also, check out the prices of other stuff you need, ie comms cables. The cable for an EFi ecu is something like £450+vat, just so I can get the data from it! Hence I sold that and bought a DTA for only a bit more than just the cable would cost...  thats all very interesting and helpful, cheers. yes, i would also have to run a double tooth trigger on the cam for the phase sensor. dont suppose you have any pics of aux pulley/crank sensor? £450 for a comms lead??? |
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Posted 1st Mar 2013 at 07:34
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #15
You can use stock sensors, cars that dont utilise them tend to have small clutches and very light flywheels.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Mar 2013 at 07:36
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #16
im sure that existing 60-2 trigger and sensor isnt doable with pectel. |
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Posted 1st Mar 2013 at 07:38
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #17
No pics at the moment but the sensor just looks like a crank sensor mounted on a custom bracket and the trigger wheel came from efi parts.Co.UK or summin like that. My auxiliary pulley is tiny as it only runs a small alternator with limited Electrics and the trigger wheel is stepped to sit over and bolt onto the auxiliary pulley. I'd be surprised if pectal won't run with 60-2 but it will need to be set up properly to suit and this is where you may struggle as older ECUs you tended to have to adjust jumpers on the ecu board itself whereas the modern ECUs you just tell them what you're running. Ie the DTAs just have a drop down box in the software and you choose the type of trigger you're running. You can also tell then which sensors you're using so can usually stick with standard, again something the pectel may not support. Best bet is to ring pectel and ask them, find out how much hassle it will be before buying it. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2013 at 22:54
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #18
ok. does the trigger sit on the inside of the aux pulley?i know a guy who had a turbo'd 16v 205 who was running cosworth management and he couldnt fit the lower part of the cam belt cover as the trigger wheel fouled it. I'm not keen on that idea at all, one big of gravel in the timing gear and its game over |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2013 at 23:01
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Mine sits on the inside and yes you have to modify the timing cover. Not difficult to do a tidy job though. You could mount it on the outside of the pulley but you'd need quite a long bracket to do it. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2013 at 23:17
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #20
tbh i'm not keen on mounting it on the outside, for instance if the aux belt was to snap then chancesare it would damage the sensor bracket. I would very much appreciate a pic of your setup |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2013 at 23:21
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