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Does anyone know if the gti6 block/bottom end fit direct to the s16 cylinder head?
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 tarret
Regular  Location: Maidstone Registered: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 323 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 21:45
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mr swampy s16
**BAD SELLER**  Location: out and about Registered: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 10,550 Status: Offline |
Post #2
NopeWell at least you can't do it the other way around as the oil and water ways don't line up. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 21:48
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #3
the oil/water ways 100% do line up |
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Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 21:50
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tarret
Regular Location: Maidstone Registered: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 323 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Lol so they do but don't :/ lol |
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Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 21:55
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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Mrs wampy is talking bo***cks.However it is not advisable as you would lose compression with an s16 head, of course if you drop s16 pistont and rods in or aftermarket on gti6 rods then all good, other than oil issues. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 22:06
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tarret
Regular Location: Maidstone Registered: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 323 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Ok that's cool  cheers guys |
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Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 22:28
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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What are the oil issues Mei?________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 22:32
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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Its an MI16 with a cast steel block, so same oil issues as those, just not quite so bad, apparently.Though I have two dead ones, and am running a gti6... ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 23:01
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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The S16 head on a XU10 block is a good combo though, after compression has been corrected of course?________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 23:04
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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S16 IS an xu10  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 23:14
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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You know what I meant, cock  XU10J4RS then... ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 16th Feb 2013 at 23:19
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elpatron
Junior User Location: Switzerland Registered: 21 Aug 2012 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #12
What compression ratio does this combo give? |
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Posted 6th Jul 2013 at 18:19
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tarret
Regular Location: Maidstone Registered: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 323 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Would of thought it'll be the same |
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Posted 6th Jul 2013 at 19:02
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Nope, as the head chamber is a different volume, also lower comp as std.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th Jul 2013 at 08:42
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elpatron
Junior User Location: Switzerland Registered: 21 Aug 2012 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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so this would be lower comp than the original s16 cr of 10.4? |
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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 23:06
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #16
if bolted over RFS pistons yes.its a good head but flawed, the main reason the later 16v XU's are quite different, and then the EW an evolution of the same later type head in essence. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 23:34
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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Why bother then, spend your time fitting ITB's ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 8th Jul 2013 at 23:40
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elpatron
Junior User Location: Switzerland Registered: 21 Aug 2012 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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The thing is when i get forged pistons and rods from a rfs what cr would i get with s16 head say 12.2 wossner pistons?Will be fitted with kentcams pt2002. But I think that a cr of 12.2 would be a bit high for such cams would be better around 11.0 to 11.5 i think |
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Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 08:39
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elpatron
Junior User Location: Switzerland Registered: 21 Aug 2012 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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ITB would be great but here in switzerland impossible to get these immatriculated. So i have to stay with mods that are not so much visible to the eye |
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Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 08:38
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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92mm crank, custom long rods (160+), 87 mm pistons, forget cheap stuff like pec and wossner, it is worth saving more and getting the likes of cp omega or similar pistons and farndon or carillo rods.That should get you over 200 on mild cams quite easily and be very reliable. Use the rfs inlet. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 13:35
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elpatron
Junior User Location: Switzerland Registered: 21 Aug 2012 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: 92mm crank, custom long rods (160+), 87 mm pistons, forget cheap stuff like pec and wossner, it is worth saving more and getting the likes of cp omega or similar pistons and farndon or carillo rods. That should get you over 200 on mild cams quite easily and be very reliable. Use the rfs inlet. Is it possible to map the standard ecu for such an application or not? |
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Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 17:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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Over here it is, you'd need to look into whether you can find anyone in your country/area that can, it's a BOSCH MP 5.2 on the RFY iirc..________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 18:10
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elpatron
Junior User Location: Switzerland Registered: 21 Aug 2012 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
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So a build with such a crank would give 88mm, what conrods would be necessary with this crank does this work with xu10j4rs spec rods and wossner high comp pistons?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CITROEN-PEUGOET-1-9d-Crankshaft-std-size-XUD9-engine-code-/160786842827#ht_1135wt_1382 |
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Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 19:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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it would not work with std spec rods+pistons of course, given the extra 1mm in height @ TDC________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 20:01
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elpatron
Junior User Location: Switzerland Registered: 21 Aug 2012 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
Post #25
so the easiest version so far would still be a build with standard rfs spec rods with forged wossner high comp pistons. Straight fit only problem with the high compression ratio of 12.2 of the wossner pistons? but given the s16 head would still be a bit lower than 12.2 without machining because of the head design the s16 has.what would be a good cr for kentcams pt2002? If it matters I use this car as a daily driver. |
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Posted 9th Jul 2013 at 20:15
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