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 swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 22nd Jan 2013 at 22:17
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rich306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Portsmouth Registered: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 1,834 Status: Offline |
Post #27
I didn't know how to unlock an ECU, i was just taught that if you yank out the previous engines Immobiliser when it's running, the new 'unlocked' ECU won't lock up unless you plug the immobiliser in without recoding it. Unless there is a way around this? ________________________________________ Richies Project RallyeElectrical work carried out in Portsmouth jamiek_uk2000 wrote: - Top Tip!!! You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2013 at 23:41
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #28
On Phase 1's it's done with removing the keypad, on Phase 2's and 3's it's achieved by disconnecting the ECU.________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2013 at 23:46
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MartinObviously
Newbie  Location: Perth Registered: 21 Jan 2013 Posts: 35 Status: Offline |
Post #29
stan_306gti6 wrote: On Phase 1's it's done with removing the keypad, on Phase 2's and 3's it's achieved by disconnecting the ECU. On ph2 and 3 I guess there's an immobiliser box which you pull out with the engine running? I suppose the ECU could be electronically unlocked and the signal pin removed? so it can go straight into any othe 306?  ________________________________________ genuine nob |
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Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:39
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #30
i think with the engine running or on ignition position 2 you unplug the ECU and then remove the immobilier box thingy, which is under the dash - at a guess. only done it properly on a p1 with the keypad method. i did unlock my gti6 ecu using the remove on position 2 method but not yet tested it (it's for my 205 gti6 conversion)________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:43
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #31
The ECU I bought to go with the engine I put in my 309 was simply unplugged with the engine running as far as I know. Because it was going into a 309 without an immobiliser setup inside teh car I didn't have to do any more, but from what I gather if you don't remove the "chip reader" from by the ignition barrel on a P2/3 or remove the keypad from a P1, it will re-lock the ECU when you turn the key. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 25th Jan 2013 at 01:09
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #32
You only need the ignition and and not the car running, Much safer this way and always works________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 25th Jan 2013 at 01:39
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #33
miles wrote: You only need the ignition and and not the car running, Much safer this way and always works ^^This ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 25th Jan 2013 at 11:45
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MartinObviously
Newbie Location: Perth Registered: 21 Jan 2013 Posts: 35 Status: Offline |
Post #34
I know only the ignition needs to be on :pbut the original GTI-6 loom is buggered, so I can't do that either way  It's certainly faster than a standard XSi anyway. on the old engine it would struggle to keep up with my 106 - apart from about 110 mph onwards. Organising getting a loom and ECU for it  ________________________________________ genuine nob |
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Posted 25th Jan 2013 at 18:18
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #35
MartinObviously wrote: Organising getting a loom and ECU for it Good stuff, then it will be running even better. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 25th Jan 2013 at 20:00
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Had a going with a 106 gti earlier not sure if my gear change was better but when i changed into 2nd i overtook quite easily. Although when my friend had a saxo vts i couldnt overtake him untill 4th gear, dunno why as its the same engine and same sort of weight________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 26th Jan 2013 at 00:33
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
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swiftyboi006 wrote: Had a going with a 106 gti earlier not sure if my gear change was better but when i changed into 2nd i overtook quite easily. Although when my friend had a saxo vts i couldnt overtake him untill 4th gear, dunno why as its the same engine and same sort of weight Doesn't a Saxo VTS have a longer 2nd gear than a 106 GTi? ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 26th Jan 2013 at 00:47
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MartinObviously
Newbie Location: Perth Registered: 21 Jan 2013 Posts: 35 Status: Offline |
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RetroPug wrote: swiftyboi006 wrote: Had a going with a 106 gti earlier not sure if my gear change was better but when i changed into 2nd i overtook quite easily. Although when my friend had a saxo vts i couldnt overtake him untill 4th gear, dunno why as its the same engine and same sort of weight Doesn't a Saxo VTS have a longer 2nd gear than a 106 GTi? Nope, that's a myth used by Saxo owners to make their VTS sound pure sik fast innit blud. Gear boxes are exactly the same ratios. It's the same story with the Furio and Quiksilver. Paper figures are different because Citroen did tests with half tank of fuel and driver, and Peugeot did it with a full tank and one passenger. Also the Citroen is a s**tter spec  Both cars are identical - I actually think the 106 is slightly heavier empty anyway but there's not much in it. 106 is nicer anyway, doesn't carry the same chav image as a saxo. ________________________________________ genuine nob |
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Posted 26th Jan 2013 at 12:59
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MartinObviously
Newbie Location: Perth Registered: 21 Jan 2013 Posts: 35 Status: Offline |
Post #39
ECU, loom and immobiliser box fitted, pulls like a train all the way to just over 7k now ________________________________________ genuine nob |
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Posted 6th Jun 2013 at 22:30
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #40
MartinObviously wrote: ECU, loom and immobiliser box fitted, pulls like a train all the way to just over 7k now Awesome, sounds like you've got it sussed. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 07:20
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MartinObviously
Newbie Location: Perth Registered: 21 Jan 2013 Posts: 35 Status: Offline |
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Only 5 months later :pIt's on its second mid section of exhaust as well. after one track day a massive hole formed in the uhh, "silencer". ________________________________________ genuine nob |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 18:17
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