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 soton_s16
Senior User  Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 703 Status: Offline |
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Can I use a 205 radiator in my 306 S16? Will it straight in without needing the hoses modified/ changed? Also, will it be big enough?I have throttle bodies, and I can't fit an airbox on them as the rad is in the way. But having received quotes for a shorter rad, I am seeing if there is a cheaper option... ________________________________________ For all your Peugeot needs PugRacing.comGti S16 199bhp 164 ft lbs torques! |
 Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 21:19
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #2
you'll need to fit a remote header/expansion tank, also you may as well use the 1.8 td item, its muchthicker |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 21:23
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #3
...and the hoses are a push fit with jubilees rather than the stupid bayonet fittings |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 21:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #4
BOOMhttp://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=74819&page=8 ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 21:44
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soton_s16
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 703 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: Thanks for the link, but I can't find where it states what radiator he is using... ________________________________________ For all your Peugeot needs PugRacing.comGti S16 199bhp 164 ft lbs torques! |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 22:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #6
its a 205 gti rad.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 22:13
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soton_s16
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 703 Status: Offline |
Post #7
What else will I needRadiator http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-205-309-1-6-1-9-GTI-8v-1-8-TD-TWIN-CORE-HIGH-FLOW-ALLOY-RADIATOR-/230874156618?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3A205&hash=item35c12c0e4a Header tank http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALLOY-HEADER-TANK-BUDGET-KIT-CAR-RACE-RALLY-/400217271196?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d2eceeb9c Fan http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPAL-FAN-VA07-BP12-C-58A-24-VOLT-/320999065510?pt=UK_BOI_Restaurant_RL&hash=item4abd0907a6 I want to get some silicone hoses. I presume I will need a custom set? ________________________________________ For all your Peugeot needs PugRacing.comGti S16 199bhp 164 ft lbs torques! |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 11:01
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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I wouldn't bother with an alloy header tank, just use a 205 one  you could use most of a BBM or Pugracing 205 gti6 hose kit. I would make up a steel frame to mount the fan on and secure the rad, don't forget rubber buffers for the rad, that rad looks quite a bargain if its decent!  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 11:19
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rich306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Portsmouth Registered: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 1,834 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Learn something new everyday  ________________________________________ Richies Project RallyeElectrical work carried out in Portsmouth jamiek_uk2000 wrote: - Top Tip!!! You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 18:53
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devere
Senior User  Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Bit of a bump here. Would the 205/GTi6 hose kit be everything needed to get the 205 rad to work with the 6 engine in a 306? By that i mean just hose wise, i know the header tank is needed. |
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Posted 12th Nov 2012 at 20:34
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Everything is a different length and shape pipe wise________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 14th Nov 2012 at 22:14
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devere
Senior User Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #12
So on that's basis Miles, is there an off the shelf solution...? |
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Posted 14th Nov 2012 at 23:52
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #13
No, But there could be either 2 ways, A new 306 type rad with a plain lower fitting with a new silicone hose or have a fitting fitted onto a rad, either way not that cheap________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 18th Nov 2012 at 01:54
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blandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Bit of a bump but did anyone fit the 205 rad in the end? Just looking into this for mine |
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Posted 7th Apr 2013 at 08:22
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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blandy wrote: Bit of a bump but did anyone fit the 205 rad in the end? Just looking into this for mine In welshpugs link above they did.  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 7th Apr 2013 at 11:02
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blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Yeah but theres no real info about it or not that I could see when I read through it yesterday just wondering what hoses to use etc |
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Posted 7th Apr 2013 at 12:48
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #17
blandy wrote: Yeah but theres no real info about it or not that I could see when I read through it yesterday just wondering what hoses to use etc It's going to be a suck it and see job Get a rad,make brackets/get it to fit,make up hoses to fit In my 309 I got rid of standard cowling,this allowed the rad to be mounted further forward and lower. Pic below of the bracket my m8 made for me:  Gave me loads of room between rad and inlet  you can see I had a bracket made up for the top mounting on rad too,and had it welded to rad: Would have been perfect for airflow to ITB's as you can see below:  Presume you would be cutting up your grill to allow direct airfeed?  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 7th Apr 2013 at 16:33
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blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Thanks those pics help alot I've pretty much decided on a 205 rad and like you say going to get a rad and make brackets etc and then pipe from there once I've got everything sorted. How does the header tank fit pipework wise And yes cutting and making new panel to drop lower down to get everything out of the way of the throttle bodies |
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Posted 7th Apr 2013 at 16:39
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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blandy wrote: Thanks those pics help alot I've pretty much decided on a 205 rad and like you say going to get a rad and make brackets etc and then pipe from there once I've got everything sorted. How does the header tank fit pipework wise And yes cutting and making new panel to drop lower down to get everything out of the way of the throttle bodies On the 309 the header tank had 3 connections,2 to the top of tank,and one on the bottom,top ones were: from the small bleed pipe on the rad,and another bleed point from the thermostat housing. The bottom connection feeds into the pipe that goes from thermostat housing to the rear of water pump. You can see the header tank top right of pic above on the bulkhead,radiator bleed pipe is visible on the top left of rad ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 7th Apr 2013 at 19:33
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allye
Regular  Location: Devizes Registered: 05 May 2011 Posts: 204 Status: Offline |
Post #20
On a road car i have to say I would not suggest fitting a 205 Radiator. In both my GTI6 engined 205's I used 205 radiators, nissens alloy items. It would run hot in traffic in no time and I was never really happy with it. In a heavier car I can only imagine it would be worse. If you're set on a 205 radiator at least use a diesel turbo item.________________________________________ 205 Van SC'd GTI6 - because why not309 Goodwood V6 - sold 205 Rallye GTI6 - Bent |
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Posted 7th Apr 2013 at 19:46
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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allye wrote: On a road car i have to say I would not suggest fitting a 205 Radiator. In both my GTI6 engined 205's I used 205 radiators, nissens alloy items. It would run hot in traffic in no time and I was never really happy with it. In a heavier car I can only imagine it would be worse. If you're set on a 205 radiator at least use a diesel turbo item. Using which senders for your temp gauge? ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 7th Apr 2013 at 19:55
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #22
WTF, 205 rad into a 306 title not 306 engine into a 205 car using 205 rad thread??________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 7th Apr 2013 at 22:37
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blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Nice to see something different every now and then. |
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Posted 8th Apr 2013 at 11:09
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blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Also been looking into custom radiators would It be better with a remote header tank or one built into the rad like standard bearing in mind it would be a smaller but thicker rad? |
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Posted 8th Apr 2013 at 11:25
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Check the bbm facebook page, they can do custom rads and stew has one on his t16 306 track car project.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 8th Apr 2013 at 11:34
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