Post #1
Hi all I have a pretty standard gti6 with a lightened flywheel, Its producing 136bhp.(pretty much what you'd expect I think)I'd like to increase by maybe another 20-30bhp, It also has a decat and performance air filter. Any suggestions on the best way to achieve this, cheers
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 markylee
Regular  Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:08
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manthos
Seasoned Pro  Location: Norwich Registered: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,966 Status: Offline |
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They are 167bhp standard________________________________________ Team SUPERCHARGED I LIVE FOR THE 306 Old Project thread Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url = |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:15
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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......Sure its not a xsi?134hp....?!! At the wheels? or fly? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:15
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
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Thats 136 at the wheels, if it should be 167 I've lost a few somewhere, it runs well, so i dont think theres a problem |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:24
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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SC kit ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:27
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manthos
Seasoned Pro Location: Norwich Registered: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,966 Status: Offline |
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thats fine its 167 at the fly________________________________________ Team SUPERCHARGED I LIVE FOR THE 306 Old Project thread Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url = |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:30
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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It should be 167 at the fly. So going off what you said at the moment your engine is like 158 a the fly? Its all a bit p**s in the wind thoughIf you wnat more NA power, then theres not much point faffing unless your going to get cams and potentially TB's as well. ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:30
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
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i had a drunken coversation with a middle aged man a few month agohe was determind that has mint p1 diablo red six was something daft like 136bhp he must of ment at the wheel  money per bhp Supercharger kit is way forward ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:33
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
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sorry for my stupidity but what are tb's |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:34
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
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and how much increase would cams give me |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:34
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manthos
Seasoned Pro Location: Norwich Registered: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,966 Status: Offline |
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TB = throttle bodies________________________________________ Team SUPERCHARGED I LIVE FOR THE 306 Old Project thread Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url = |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:36
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Throttle bodies.And as for cams, depends which ones. once you hit 190 ish hp though it all starts to get a lot more expensive. Not like it wont be anyway. You'll need to spend about 1.5k to get at that level i'd have thought anyway. Basically, How much power do you want? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:37
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I have 136 at the wheels, so pretty standard, would like maybe 160ish |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:39
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: EFA Basically, How much power can you afford? ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:40
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manthos
Seasoned Pro Location: Norwich Registered: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,966 Status: Offline |
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He says an extra 20-30bhp at the top. change the standard back box as all the good the air filtr and decat are doing are going to waste at the backbox as its not straight through.Plus some lairy cams and a remap should see about 20bhp but some slightly milder cams, remap and TB's will see the 30bhp perhaps slightly more ________________________________________ Team SUPERCHARGED I LIVE FOR THE 306 Old Project thread Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url = |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:42
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
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what cams would you suggest as I'd rather not go the tb's route |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:45
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manthos
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for just cams and i remap i am not the best to ask but from what i read on here you want some longman cams or pt81's________________________________________ Team SUPERCHARGED I LIVE FOR THE 306 Old Project thread Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url = |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:49
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
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Thanks for replies, gives me something to think about |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:50
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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neither of the above, PH2's or peter taylor regrinds if you can guarantee that the head has not been off, you wont need and cannot fit lairy cams in a standard engine.heres a thread detailing what cams will go in a standard engine http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=104146 throttle bodies would give you an epic soundtrack. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:53
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eliotrw
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welshpug! wrote: neither of the above, PH2's or peter taylor regrinds if you can guarantee that the head has not been off, you wont need and cannot fit lairy cams in a standard engine. heres a thread detailing what cams will go in a standard engine http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=104146 throttle bodies would give you an epic soundtrack. Have you had my most latest and "i hope" successful attempt at sending a PM btw? I thought i was doing something retarded but this time i just sent one by clicking your profile  ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:56
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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markylee wrote: I have 136 at the wheels, so pretty standard, would like maybe 160ish My old Gti6 powered 309 Gti is now running 160bhp at the wheels with similar spec to yours with Magnex exhaust,air filter and aftermarket ECU and map  Head was a fresh rebuilt one though too,so slightly higher comp/re-cut valve seats/de-coke etc  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 21:44
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manthos
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Coskev do you have cams in the 309?________________________________________ Team SUPERCHARGED I LIVE FOR THE 306 Old Project thread Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url = |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 22:04
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coskev
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manthos wrote: Coskev do you have cams in the 309? its not mine anymore! not got cams pretty sure its on a DTA ecu  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 21st Jul 2012 at 14:32
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
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my rallye was 191bhp with a decat an exhaust and filter and no cams, as i still run the same head just now, it had been rebuild as it had been a snapper at some point________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 21st Jul 2012 at 15:01
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #25
some great advise their, cheers |
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Posted 22nd Jul 2012 at 19:44
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