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 superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi guys have done a search for this but not been able to come up with anything just wondered how much work is involved with creating a 2.1/2.2 block and which crank must be used etc etc Any help would be appreciated Ross ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
 Posted 17th Jun 2012 at 16:19
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #2
2.1 would be created using an 88mm crank from a 1.7 or 1.9 pug engine, petrol or diesel, they're all 88mm stroke.2.2 would be using the XUD11 92mm crank. You'd use 87mm bore pistons and custom rods to suit, this would cost around £13-1400, Sandy Brown has a spec for both that works. 2.1 would be quite revvy still, 2.2 packs a hell of a shove but will still rev out well. OR, you could use an EW12. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jun 2012 at 16:55
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Thanks WelshpugDo you need to have custom conrods for the 2.1 conversion? Just am building a high boost engine and fancied a little extra capactiy. ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 17th Jun 2012 at 17:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #4
you'd need them anyway when going high boost.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jun 2012 at 17:35
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Y nt stick a v6 into ot?________________________________________ |
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Posted 17th Jun 2012 at 17:43
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #6
You would need uprated rods for going high boost, however if you are changing the stroke of the engine you will need some custom rods made as the ones off the shelf from Rich_W are for an engine with a standard stroke of 86mm.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 17th Jun 2012 at 17:47
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Only reason Stan I have already bought some Saenz rods of Rich so may have to sell them and get some different Rods made if i plan to do this. ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 17th Jun 2012 at 18:35
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #8
fatlapitV6 is a little to heavy + don't think has been done to a highboost before and I fancied being the first one to do it.  ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 17th Jun 2012 at 18:42
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #9
or get the pistons made with 1mm lower crown height.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jun 2012 at 20:29
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anth
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
Post #10
450 though the front wheels isnt enough? LolI have to feed the throttle in with just 260. |
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Posted 18th Jun 2012 at 10:30
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Maybe Gain a few more lbft ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 18th Jun 2012 at 11:18
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #12
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: Maybe Gain a few more lbft This is possible, after all the saying goes - "There's no replacement for displacement"  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 18th Jun 2012 at 11:50
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I wouldn't bother Ross.We tend to rev these S/C'd engines quite highly, increasing the stroke increases the piston speed, which increases fatigue on everything. I also wouldn't go past 86,5mm on the bore - otherwise cylinder wall thickness becomes a concern given the cylinder pressures these engines sustain, You would just be better off machinging the restrictor out and running some more boost, it will give you more torque and more ponies. It's a kinder way of getting more out of the engine, as long as you can deal with dissipating the extra heat energy etc etc.  ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 18th Jun 2012 at 12:04
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Ok Richard I trust your judgement on these conversions, just thought for a little extra work could release some extra power  ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 18th Jun 2012 at 13:05
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #15
I thought of this a while ago and as rich says it's probably not needed at all. Particularly with that new c38 that brings the power in a bit lower down the rev range irc ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 18th Jun 2012 at 13:10
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