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Author | Subject: loose m5 bolt /timing belt damage |
mjt4130
Regular Location: hessle Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Status: Offline |
Post #1
This happened today, reckon the belts slipped after this bolt was loose and got between a pulley and the belt, sending timing out and slashing the belt. Not sure if the head is s**teyed yet. I m thinking these bolts need loctite on them, check yours now! |
Posted 26th May 2012 at 21:46
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Where i that bolt from ? |
Posted 26th May 2012 at 22:32
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mjt4130
Regular Location: hessle Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Status: Offline |
Post #3
the bolt is from behind the pulley, not sure what it holds |
Posted 26th May 2012 at 23:30
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Look like an inner cam cover bolt possibly, although it's so long since I've done a belt on a '6' now the memory is struggling a bit...________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 26th May 2012 at 23:44
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I had the pulleys off my engine today whilst doing a belt change didn't notice any bolts up there ? |
Posted 26th May 2012 at 23:53
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Yep, 6 bolts on the inner cambelt cover, mind allot of people don't use thread-lock when fitting them back in the head, A huge no no.________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
Posted 27th May 2012 at 00:21
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mjt4130
Regular Location: hessle Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Status: Offline |
Post #7
My head was rebuilt before I owned the car a few years ago. Getting my local garage to put a belt on and time it up, guess thats when I find out the bad news. The car is currently sitting on a ramp next to 3 escort rally cars, a classic 911 rally car and a 6R4. Will try and get some pictures next week. |
Posted 27th May 2012 at 09:16
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #8
If the belt has slipped/jumped or come off you WILL have piston to valve contact. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 28th May 2012 at 11:22
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mjt4130
Regular Location: hessle Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Status: Offline |
Post #9
quote: If the belt has slipped/jumped or come off you WILL have piston to valve contact So potentially, what would you do while the head was apart? Do these heads respond well to a bit of porting and polishing? Pre incident it was producing good power but if the heads being rebuilt how can I improve things? Dont want to change the cams and not intending on charging it |
Posted 31st May 2012 at 20:48
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #10
They don't need porting, they flow extremely well as standard. Just make sure when it's apart you check every valve and guide, get the head pressure tested and skimmed and a new set of valve stem oil seals. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 31st May 2012 at 21:21
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honestly3k
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkhamsted Registered: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 2,390 Status: Offline |
Post #11
I had a very similar problem to this after i drove my 6 home for the first time.It sounded like a tractor and turned out there was a bolt wedged between the belt and the cambelt cover. It gauged out a line around the belt. Apparantly a bolt or two got in with the camshafts too at some point and they had to be machined again. But it somehow didnt damage the head. Sounds sweet as a nut and has done since. Hopefully yours will have the same outcome ________________________________________ ''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6? |
Posted 31st May 2012 at 22:08
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mjt4130
Regular Location: hessle Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Status: Offline |
Post #12
The engines up and running! Just need to sort out an idling problem and its there |
Posted 20th Jun 2012 at 08:34
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #13
mjt4130 wrote: The engines up and running! Just need to sort out an idling problem and its there Had the belt slipped at all? Any damage? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 20th Jun 2012 at 10:13
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mjt4130
Regular Location: hessle Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Status: Offline |
Post #14
No damage to head but they cant get it to idle, which is strange as it idled perfectly before |
Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 13:21
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Probably a sensor which hasn't been plugged in somewhere when putting it back together...________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 18:48
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mjt4130
Regular Location: hessle Registered: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 200 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Downer. Its a tapper! Still goes like a rocket but its got a very distinct tappety tap noise. Think I ll get it rebuilt over winter and risk it for now. Gutted. |
Posted 1st Jul 2012 at 13:44
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