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mick1989

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Post #1
hi all. Sinse the other day i had a battery light on the dash Very faint, So i whipped the alty off and put my spare one on. Also did the cam belt while i was there. wat a job.. Sinse then my battery light has gone off but it drained the battery again. So then i got the other alty re conned. fitted that then the battery was completely goosed so replaced that aswell. everything felt fine to it went dark, Noticed my dash lights were slightly dim when i turned my lights on.. Everything started playing up then. Turned the car off. The battery was completely drained again.Dunno ??????????? can anyone help Thumbs up
Posted 23rd May 2012 at 01:42
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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Post #2
You have a consistant drain on the battery somewhere...

First thing to do would be to get the car started somehow, probably jumping it off another car and then with a multimeter measure the battery voltage. It should be up around 14.4v ish whilst the engine is running. If it isn't, then your alternator isn't charging it.
The alternator runs the electrics whilst the engine is running, not the battery. So, another test you can do in the dark is to drive up to a wall parking as close as you can to it with the bonnet. Then with your headlights on, rev the engine. You should see your headlights against the wall get slightly brighter. If they don't, again you've got an alternator issue.

If all that checks out ok, then you will need to go into the passenger compartment fuse box with everything switched off and with a multimeter check all the fuses to see what current is flowing through them. Typically, you should no higher drain on any circuit than about 15-20mA. If you have a circuit which is pulling a lot larger than this amount then this is where your drain is and you will need to find out what electrical systems are run on that fuse circuit and then check them all out individually.

However - My gut feeling is you have a charging problem. The reason I say that is because you say your dash lights went dimmer when you put the headlights on with the engine running. This indicates to me that the battery is running the electrics when the engine is running not the alternator. Again the fact that you can go for a drive and then the battery is completely dead signals this. Because the ECU/injectors etc all need electricity to operate, if you have a charged battery and then go for a drive without the battery being charged on route and the alternator not working, it will soon run out of juice. Yes

Check that alternator out again and let us know how you get on. Thumbs up

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Posted 23rd May 2012 at 09:17
mick1989

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Post #3
Thanks stan. Just whipped the inlet mani off to check the work again. The wire that goes to the Alty under the 13m that goes to the starter then the battery i think? Is al brittle (very thin) Didnt notice this as its under plastic tubing! Could i try a new wire streight to the alty to the battery to test this?
Posted 23rd May 2012 at 10:54
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Post #4
Yes, as the existing battery cable goes from the battery terminal to the rear of the starter, and then from there links straight to the alternator. Smile

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Posted 23rd May 2012 at 12:05
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Have you checked the battery voltage when running to confirm the alternator is not charging? Dunno

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Posted 23rd May 2012 at 12:08
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Any updates on this Mick? Unsure

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Posted 24th May 2012 at 22:18
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Post #7
ive just had the alty spun tested. working perfect. its back on the car now but still not charging the battery. Its 12.35 when running and same when not. ive tried running a wire from the alty under the 13m to the battery but still no different. i wire must have broke down somewere!!
Posted 25th May 2012 at 14:10
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Yep, broken connection somewhere mate. Wink

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Posted 25th May 2012 at 14:35
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any idea where this could be. whats the wire with the 7mm nut on the alty
Posted 25th May 2012 at 16:00
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Post #10
I am away from home at the moment, but I will have a look at the wiring when I get back to my car this weekend and let you know where I believe the fault will most likely be. Smile

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Posted 26th May 2012 at 01:43
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Post #11
thanks mate. Havnt a clue whats up with the car now. Going in the garage next week if I cant get it sorted!!!
Posted 26th May 2012 at 17:42
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Post #12
I have had a look and there doesn't seem to be much wiring, it's fairly simple....

Are you sure the alternator has been tested and is working correctly?

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Posted 27th May 2012 at 17:51
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Thats what i thought looks simple. I had both altys spun teased, Both was working fine they said.. its not charging the battery tho!! The cars in the garage now so will let uno how it goes on. Thanks for your help Wink
Posted 28th May 2012 at 19:09
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Sounds like a bad earth to me ?

Check the 2 earths on the gear box and the earths under the battery box Thumbs up
Posted 28th May 2012 at 19:38
mick1989

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Post #15
I have done mate. To be honest thats what i think it is but ive run new earthes all over to double check this,
Posted 28th May 2012 at 23:49
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Post #16
Keep us updated mate, this could make an interesting FAQ when you manage to find the issue.

It has to be a bad/corroded connection or earth connection as Chris says if the alternators have been confirmed as working. Yes

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Posted 29th May 2012 at 09:11
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Any updates from the garage as to what they've found? Unsure

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Posted 31st May 2012 at 16:16

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