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Any ideas if other any 306's use a smaller reservoir that will still fit into the gti6 master cylinder?________________________________________
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 footah212
Senior User  Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 6th May 2012 at 12:42
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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they're pretty much all identical.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th May 2012 at 12:45
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: they're pretty much all identical. damn!! How easy is it to move the brake servo / master cylinder down by 1/2"? I get the impression it would be difficult ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th May 2012 at 16:25
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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why?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th May 2012 at 16:27
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: why? strut brace ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th May 2012 at 16:33
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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footah212 wrote: Any ideas? BFH? ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th May 2012 at 16:33
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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buy the right one, or fit it the right way round.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th May 2012 at 16:36
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: buy the right one, or fit it the right way round. Yes i know i should buy the right one but i got some advise that it would fit but it doesn't because of the reservoir. You know a lot about these things - why will it fit an S16/xsi but not a 6. I presume the reservoir sits lower on the former? ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th May 2012 at 16:39
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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footah212 wrote: welshpug! wrote: buy the right one, or fit it the right way round. Yes i know i should buy the right one but i got some advice that it would fit, but it doesn't because of the reservoir. You know a lot about these things - why will it fit an S16/xsi but not a 6. I presume the reservoir sits lower on the former? ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th May 2012 at 16:54
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
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How big is the hole the reservoir sits in? could you tap it out and then install a remote reservoir? |
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Posted 6th May 2012 at 18:56
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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chris with a pug wrote: How big is the hole the reservoir sits in? could you tap it out and then install a remote reservoir? Yes i am thinking of something like this as a last resort. If it will fit an s16 then surely i can get it to fit a 6 with a wee bit of work. There must be something that can be swapped I'm sure. As I say above it was cheap so making an effort to try to make it work is worth it for me. If it doesn't work then hey ho. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 6th May 2012 at 20:26
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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Ok I went to th scrappy today and found a reservoir that off a 406 that looked like it would sort things out. It was shorter but deeper and should have provided enough cleareance to get the strut brace on. Took it the the counter an the simpleton guy says to me 'I'll not sell you that unless you take the master cylinder cos i'll not be able to sell the master cylinder if you take the reservoir'. I tried explaining that they are separate parts but he wasn't having it - told him to ram it and left it the counter. He will never find the car i took it off anyway so he just did him self out of a £5. Had a look at all the other 306's he had in the yard and all the reserviors are identical as Welshpug says. What I don't understand is how it will clear the reservoir on an S16 and XSi but not a 6  Could it be that the cylinder is shorter/smaller on those cars which means the reservoir sits slightly further back? ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 15:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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got a pic of how you are fitting it?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 16:05
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: got a pic of how you are fitting it? I should have taken a few when I was trying to fit earlier but now the heavens have opened. If it drys up I'll get it back out and get some snaps. I can get 3 of the 4 bolts on. The 4th is in line with the bolt hole in the strut mount but sitting up about 20mm above the top of the strut housing. I may be able to pull it down using a longer bolt but it will be pushing the res up the way. I might try taking the res off, fitting the brace and then putting the res back on( will probably need to bleed the brakes if i do that and don't have the time or inclination to do that today.) It may also work by putting the brace on in reverse, but the brace would need the strut hole widening in order to fit down over the dished washer thing that makes up the top of the strut assembly. If that makes sense. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 16:34
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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there's only 3 bolts in a 306 top mount.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 16:53
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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 ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 18:32
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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footah212 wrote: I may be able to pull it down using a longer bolt but it will be pushing the res up the way. You should never use a bolt to "pull" something down, it should sit in its correct location before bolting it to hold it in place.  I would say the strut brace you have there is the wrong one for the car. I have an E-Tech one which is good, or you could always go for an OMP one, but it's best to use the correct part for the car.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 19:45
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
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Wasn't there a thread a while ago with someone using some manufacturers OE plugs in the master cylinder to mount some remote reservoirs?VX220 rings a bell, but I could be miles off ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 20:52
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: there's only 3 bolts in a 306 top mount. Yes but this brace uses 2 bolts per side. hence I'm talking about 4 bolts. I've come up with a plan. Might work , might not time will tell ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 21:18
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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clen666 wrote: Wasn't there a thread a while ago with someone using some manufacturers OE plugs in the master cylinder to mount some remote reservoirs? VX220 rings a bell, but I could be miles off I may look into this too. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 21:19
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Proper strut braces which are meant for the vehicle will be fitted with the same amount of bolts that the manufacturer used in the first place...By removing one bolt either side you are weakening the system not strengthening it. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 21:22
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stu
Seasoned Pro  Location: Milton Keynes Registered: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5,525 Status: Offline |
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Why not just buy a strut brace in the correct fitment?  Fair enough you got it cheap, but all this p**sing about with changing reservoirs and what not will surely cost more/take longer than buying the correct part in the first place. They don't do much anyway, so I wouldn't bother personally...... |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 21:22
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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stu wrote: Why not just buy a strut brace in the correct fitment? Fair enough you got it cheap, but all this p**sing about with changing reservoirs and what not will surely cost more/take longer than buying the correct part in the first place. Completely agree.  stu wrote: They don't do much anyway, so I wouldn't bother personally...... I don't really agree with that as such, I definitely felt the difference after I fitted mine. The front end seemed a lot more planted to me and definitely an improvement over standard. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 21:46
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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pictchaaarrrrsssss!!!!!!!!!! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 21:53
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footah212
Senior User Location: Paisley Registered: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 861 Status: Offline |
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I take all your points and greatly appreciate your help.I did check fitment hereSparco and yes i realsie it states that the reservoir will need moved on some models but got advice from another member who thought it would fit and looked at another thread involving thesame brace which never mentioned this problem so I took a punt. If i could get a reservoir to fit, it would cost about £5 from the scappy. Total cost of about 1/6 of what they are new for a lightweight alloy brace made by a reputable company. I'm on a buget so that would be a win for me. Moving to a remote reservoir would be too much hassle I agree, at that point it will go on the bay. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Welshpug - Pics tomorrow I promise Anyway bed time got to get up at 4am to drive to work ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi6PS3 - Black Ops 2 Engine crane for hire Renfrewshire |
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Posted 7th May 2012 at 23:49
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