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 barnettjd77
Regular  Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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This is on my 6 I have had it a few times now, the bloody thing starts smoking a lot for all of 2 minites but if i give it beans then just clears and is alright again, I wonder if it it because I crawl on at 30-40 mph in 6th gear?  ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
 Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:35
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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I know it is slightly difficult to tell, but is the smoke white, black or blue?________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:38
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: I know it is slightly difficult to tell, but is the smoke white, black or blue? I did take notice actually.  I would say a blue/white colour, i was thinking injectors? edit:blue ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:39
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Blue is oil smoke, white is liquid (water/coolant) smoke and black is overfuelling.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:43
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #5
If you say it only happens after you potter about and then clears when you give it some beans, it could well be rings.The reason I say that is because it could be that whilst you are not putting the engine under any strain the rings are not sealing, but then when you open the taps the rings seal against the bores and stop the burning of oil for a while. Have you noticed oil consumption? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:45
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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Oh right, oil smoke then, how would that come about..stupid question i know.Only does it now and again though ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:45
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Have you checked your coolant level lately and have you lost any?________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:46
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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Yeah i always seem to be filling it up all the time. can't find a pipe split though ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:48
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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It might be white smoke then and not oil smoke.If you are topping up the coolant all the time and you can't find an exterior leak, then the coolant has be leaking internally and when it burns it creates the white smoke you see... Any problems starting the car from a completely cold start? And do you have any pressure if you remove the rad cap after the car has been sitting for a day? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:50
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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Yeah most likely is then I shall try have a good look next time, if it happens.Yeah I can see what you mean i haven;t seen any pipes split ect, can be a b**ch sometimes and when started it smokes a bit occasionally, I'm not sure about the pressure as i can;t let it sit for one day  ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:53
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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barnettjd77 wrote: Yeah most likely is then I shall try have a good look next time, if it happens. Yeah I can see what you mean i haven;t seen any pipes split ect, can be a b**ch sometimes and when started it smokes a bit occasionally, I'm not sure about the pressure as i can;t let it sit for one day Sounds like it could be getting coolant into the combustion chambers causing a difficulty starting up then, and once started it then burns off the coolant. If it is that, you have a failing HG.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:20
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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it's not all the time though. will it get worse?HG head gasket? oh bugger!  ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:22
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Hg on its way out ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:22
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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WIll that be head gasket? ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:24
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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barnettjd77 wrote: WIll that be head gasket? Unfortunately it is a common sign, yes. Keep your eye on it, but yes IF it is that it will only get worse before failing completely. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:27
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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Alright cheers stan and swifty, I shall keep a look out, does it not screw the whole engine up if it goes completely?________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:28
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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You can get a "sniff" test done as well at a garage...They will probably only charge you £5 to do it. It comprises of a small kit where they have your engine running and put an instrument into your coolant header tank. The instrument is filled with a blue liquid. The equipment is "sniffing" to see if you have any hydrocarbons (exhaust gases) in your coolant. If there are, the liquid will turn to a greeny/yellow colour. If not, it will stay blue. Takes about 10 mins for the garage to perform this test and could put your mind at rest if you have it done and the liquid stays blue. However, going by the info you've given so far, I have a feeling it might turn greeny/yellow. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:30
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Another sure fire way of testing, is to drive the car to work in the morning, and then park it up.Before you go home (I'm guessing it's about 8 hours or so later) open the bonnet and slowly release the rad cap. There should be no sound whatsoever. If you get a massive "hiss" or water comes spraying out at you, it's pretty much a dead cert the HG is well on it's way out.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:32
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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Alright i shall get it looked at tomorrow as long as the garage has a kit. Yeah most likely will be the worst result but atleast i'll know whats going on ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:32
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Good move, keep us posted.  Luckily, if you do have the worst result you are fairly close to Miles off here and he will be able to sort it out for you I'm sure. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:35
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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I may be able to do that on the way to work in the morning being 4am as it has been parked since 5 this afternoon, so 11 hours should be long enough to hear anything? shall see i guess Ah right i don;t know who that is but price dependent he shall have to be doing it. ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:36
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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^^ as stan says ask you local garage to do the test but by the signs already mate it is on its way. May charge you a bit more than a 5a but well wirth it. If its going then best get it done mate ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:36
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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http://www.pugracing.com The website is temporarily down at the moment, but still his contact numbers are on the temporary homepage etc, his username here is "Miles" and I can personally recommend him. He's based in Ringwood. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:39
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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I shall get it looked at and see what it comes to. I don't care if it costs me 20 quid I want to know whats up with the bloody thing Cheers stan shall see what happens then give him a bell ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 20:42
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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No problem, let us know how you get on. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 22:11
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