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High I'm after uprating my rear torsion bars, I understand that 21mm xsara vts are a good upgrade but i'm struggling to find some. do any other vehicles have these bars fitted, or is there anything else anyone can recommend
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 markylee
Regular  Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 10:49
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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some 306 estates have them, you can get them from peugeot or citroen for about £70 each.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 10:54
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
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They're also found on some of the larger engined 306 estates, but take care if sourcing them from a 306 estate as some have 20mm bars.They are also available new from Peugeot / Citroen, currently £215 for the pair. edit: Too slow, although I did check the prices before I posted  ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 10:57
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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damn, prices gone up then  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 11:01
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
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Thanks for the advice, do you know the peugeot part no. as I may be able to get a big discount |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 11:04
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
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5150 81 and 5150 82________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 11:06
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
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Thanks again |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 11:09
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
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No problem!  ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 11:15
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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They are indeed 210 ish for the pair.I bought some 3 weeks ago. ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 11:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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I got some free when I paid £250 for my zx  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 11:24
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 11:27
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: I got some free when I paid £250 for my zx Now why doesn't that surprise me... ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 11:33
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eliotrw
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Quite why people pay 300 quid for new 21mm bars that arent even peugeot I'll never know though________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 15:42
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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I don't know either, but I got my 23's for £200.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 15:47
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eliotrw
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23's? How are they on the road then?________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 15:56
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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fine  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 16:00
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: fine Really? I have 21mm's on mine and they are IMO a good fast road setup, I'm not sure 23mm's would be as good. Do they not make it as stiff as hell?  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 20:47
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eliotrw
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Yeah that was I was wondering doesnt the 1mm of difference a 21mm gives increase stiff ness like 25%..________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 20:57
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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nope, its only about 233 lb/in, balance of the ZX is ever so slightly more rearward than a 306 if the figures I've seen are correct.21's are about 162 lb/in, 20 around 133lb. not sure what the standard 306 or zx/ph1 xsara spring rates are but I've got 180 lb on my AST's, as that's what came on them I think Phill said xsara springs were around 140 lb. Its all about the damping to a certain extent, my brothers 306 on B4's and eibach used to rattle and shake like anything down some pretty rough lanes round here, but the higher spring rate and AST/koni damped setup on my car seemed to cope so much better. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 21:07
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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Rich E wrote:  ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 21:08
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: nope, its only about 233 lb/in, balance of the ZX is ever so slightly more rearward than a 306 if the figures I've seen are correct. 21's are about 162 lb/in, 20 around 133lb. not sure what the standard 306 or zx/ph1 xsara spring rates are but I've got 180 lb on my AST's, as that's what came on them I think Phill said xsara springs were around 140 lb. Its all about the damping to a certain extent, my brothers 306 on B4's and eibach used to rattle and shake like anything down some pretty rough lanes round here, but the higher spring rate and AST/koni damped setup on my car seemed to cope so much better. Interesting info, thanks. I am interested to lnow what the standard spring poundage is on my KW V2's then if I am running the rear at 162lbs. All I know is the setup makes the car handle exactly as I want it to and it sticks to the road so well. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 22:44
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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no markings on them? probably a fair bit higher, as they'll err on the understeer side as an off the shelf setup, the AST's for a 306 come with 285 lb springs.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Apr 2012 at 23:10
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