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Author Subject: 136 vs 137 belt prices
darrengti

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Post #1
My T plate Rallye runs a 136 tooth belt. From GSF the full kit is £61.80 incl VAT. I want to go for the 137 tooth belt as recommended by Rich/Carl, etc yet this is £90.60 incl VAT.

Why should there be such a difference in price? That's almost 50% extra!

What do you guys recommend?

Thanks
Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 18:18
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136 ftw.

much more reliable steel tensioners vs plastic sprung units.

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 18:27
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Cheers Mei.

Also got a crank pulley coming from Rich. Don't want to give my uncle any chance of slipping up! (He is a very good mechanic, just not worked on a GTi6 lump before).
Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 18:32
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they arent anything special! its the same as an XSI lump and a 1.8 under the covers.

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 18:41
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Post #5
Rich recommends the use of the 136 kit NOT the 137.

136 is a much stronger setup in my opinion. Smile

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Posted 18th Apr 2012 at 11:52
darrengti

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Post #6
Stan you're the admin chap, can you remove the first cambelt FAQ where Rich recommends the 137 to avoid further confusion. Cheers
Posted 18th Apr 2012 at 21:03
anderoo

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BUMP. The Cambelt FAQ is still up and recommending the 137 tooth belt...

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Posted 22nd Nov 2018 at 10:21
JarrusJenkins

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I would say though, the 137 tooth kit you'd be a lot less likely to get the tension wrong...and besides that considering how often they're recommended to be changed on these I can't really see how one would be better than the other...
I've just fitted a 136 kit on mine and in hind sight I'd consider fitting a 137 knowing it's got an auto tensioner. The manual one was a pain in the aris to get right.
Far more of a pain to do a belt on these than an XUD9
Posted 16th Jun 2019 at 16:29
miki4

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I fitted the 137 tooth version, same as original, on my latest (and first) cambelt change which was 2016. Now the 137 tooth kits are not as available as they were in 2016 at least here in Germany. In several webcats they say its NFP (at least one part the kit consists of). I bought a 136 kit this time because it was cheaper due to mentioned reason and I'm confident now I will get the tension right with a manual tensioner.
Posted 16th Jun 2019 at 20:31
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So, the 136 tooth with a more robust tensioner is prefered over the 137 set up, which I get completely.

I asked the same question on the FB page as I'm about to ask but never got an answer.

In light of all the snappers etc, the 306 belt interval was changed to 36k/3yrs. Most of the 306's ran the 136 tooth set up (my Rallye does) so why in the Ph2 Xsara was the interval 50k/4yrs?

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Posted 17th Jun 2019 at 08:33
JarrusJenkins

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Didn't the P2 Xsara have a different engine?
Posted 16th Jun 2019 at 22:49
miki4

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Engines are the same, Ph2 Xsaras run another engine management.
Posted 17th Jun 2019 at 01:20
Joep

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Post #13
In the Netherlands the autotensioner with 137 teeth belt is preferred.

Interval of 5 years/50k km. No issues, no snaps.

Most important: buy the belt at a shop where there is high turnover. If a belt is just on the shelf for already 5 years. It is no good anymore.

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Posted 17th Jun 2019 at 07:18
cully

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remember the belt kits are not interchangeable!
unless you change the tensioner block fixing post as it is different
Posted 17th Jun 2019 at 10:08
miki4

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Joep wrote:
In the Netherlands the autotensioner with 137 teeth belt is preferred.

Interval of 5 years/50k km. No issues, no snaps.

Most important: buy the belt at a shop where there is high turnover. If a belt is just on the shelf for already 5 years. It is no good anymore.


I also think the 137 teeth kit is up to its job at least on a near standard spec engine. Otherwise Peugeot would not have changed the design knowing the engines eat cambelts.


cully wrote:
remember the belt kits are not interchangeable!
unless you change the tensioner block fixing post as it is different


Yeah, I read that somewhere. Can you tell exactly what is needed to change from 137 to 136 kit and vice versa? Maybe with part numbers. Smile
Posted 17th Jun 2019 at 14:22
cully

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miki4 wrote:



cully wrote:
remember the belt kits are not interchangeable!
unless you change the tensioner block fixing post as it is different


Yeah, I read that somewhere. Can you tell exactly what is needed to change from 137 to 136 kit and vice versa? Maybe with part numbers. Smile







Posted 17th Jun 2019 at 23:28
gnrlee Forum Admin

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anderoo wrote:
BUMP. The Cambelt FAQ is still up and recommending the 137 tooth belt...


I can change it,..

I've always used 137 tooth belts without a problem!,..
But if the concensus is that people want the FAQ changed it to recomend the 136 tooth belts and apropreate part numbers I'll change is all in favor say aye?

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Posted 18th Jun 2019 at 06:43
rudolf

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I'd say use the type the car came with but what do I know!

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Posted 18th Jun 2019 at 08:27
miles

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I tend to prefer the plastic ones, mainly when the car's little used they don't of course go rusty

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