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Author Subject: Xasra vts Box
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Is fitting a Vts box a straightforward job currently got a gti6 box in my gti6 engined 205 is the clutch ,driveshafts ,selector fork and clutch cable the same ?Are there any mods i may need to make ?Dont want to take my gti6 box out to find that the vts box requires additional parts.

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 00:41
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yup, straight on.

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 09:11
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Lift reverse cable if there is one may or may not be needed - can't remember at the moment which is which!

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 09:15
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ohh yeah, if that's present, don't use it or you wont have many gears LOL

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 09:23
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welshpug! wrote:
ohh yeah, if that's present, don't use it or you wont have many gears LOL


Yeah took me ages to find 1/2/5/R in my BE3 after changing from a BE1 in my 205. In the days before forums Wink

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 09:37
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adam b wrote:
welshpug! wrote:
ohh yeah, if that's present, don't use it or you wont have many gears LOL


Yeah took me ages to find 1/2/5/R in my BE3 after changing from a BE1 in my 205. In the days before forums Wink
When converted from non lift reverse cable to reverse lift like on a gti 6 box i had to fit my 205 1.6 gti gear stick which had lift up for gti 6 reverse.Do i need to change this or can i still use it without using the lift up function ?

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 11:07
miles

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Depends on how the conversion was done, if done properly you need to swap

1. Clutch Arm and shaft
2. Diff
3. Top Selector Arm

If not then you never know what's been done

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 11:20
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1.6 and 1.9 gearsticks are the same, as are BE1 and BE3, they just dont have the cable stuff attached.

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 11:21
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welshpug! wrote:
1.6 and 1.9 gearsticks are the same, as are BE1 and BE3, they just dont have the cable stuff attached.

Ok so it looks like a straight swap gearbox wise i did change the i think it was the inner driveshaft due to the diff seals being different on a gti6 box would this driveshaft be ok for the vts box or would i have to change it back to 1.9 gti spec ?

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 11:46
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all BE diff seals are the same, the gti6 diff is the same as a vts diff so keep your shaft as it is.

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 12:10
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welshpug! wrote:
all BE diff seals are the same, the gti6 diff is the same as a vts diff so keep your shaft as it is.

Cheers pal

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 12:26
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As per Welshpug my Rallye has a VTS box on, straight swap. Seals the same and diffs interchangeable, I put an LSD in mine.

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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 14:08
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I had a VTS box in my 309 running a VTS engine,only thing I would say I did not like as much as the 6 speed are the gear ratios of the 5 speedThumbs down

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Posted 12th Apr 2012 at 20:52
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Post #14
coskev wrote:
I had a VTS box in my 309 running a VTS engine,only thing I would say I did not like as much as the 6 speed are the gear ratios of the 5 speedThumbs down


Any gears in particular? I dont like the gears on the 6 speed 3rd and 4th are to short.

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 04:14
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b11 bob wrote:
coskev wrote:
I had a VTS box in my 309 running a VTS engine,only thing I would say I did not like as much as the 6 speed are the gear ratios of the 5 speedThumbs down


Any gears in particular? I dont like the gears on the 6 speed 3rd and 4th are to short.


you should like the vts box then!!

as its the closeness of the 6 speed I like

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 11:10
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Got two boxes for sale bob if you havent got one one 70k and one 36k...both ready for collection or drop to you?

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 11:19
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yippeekayay wrote:
Got two boxes for sale bob if you havent got one one 70k and one 36k...both ready for collection or drop to you?

I already have one but thanks for the offer next time you in Brum and you got some spare time let me know as you seem to come across so many bits for peugeots.You would be the ideal person to advise me on what i may need to inprove my car.

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 11:41
samslow

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out of interest why do people put xsara boxes in pugs? are they 6 spd too?

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:56
welshpug!

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no, they're 5 speed, a bit stronger, also fit better in a 205 than a 6 speed box.

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 17:29
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I changed as i preferred the 5 speed to the 6 speed, for track work ideally but it's also still a weekend toy.

Not that i've driven it since. :'(

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