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barnettjd77

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Post #1
Whats the best options for upgrading my standard pugs performance on cheapest way possible??

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 21:11
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Post #2
cheap and upgraded performance do not correlate, nothing is cheap!

exhausts and filters chips etc are a waste of money, cams you have to be very careful which to use as the standard engine hasn't much valve clearance.

biggest bang for buck is a supercharger conversion, plenty of information on here about that, have a search Thumbs up

I#d go throttle bodies myself though Wink

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 21:20
barnettjd77

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Post #3
I got an exhaust just makes noise i know that much lol.
throttle bodies price? couple grand? haha

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 21:22
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Post #4
just under 2k is around the ballpark for bodies all running, if you do the work yourself you can save a lot.

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 21:25
barnettjd77

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Post #5
thats a lot if i was going to crash it after.. most likely haha. yeah worth doing just getting the parts and doing it is the trouble!

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 21:41
simonjames

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Post #6
strip it out ?

cheapest way to gain performance, well wont increase power but car will accelerate and handle better

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 21:46
asim_pug306

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Post #7
This Cheap and cheerful Thumbs up

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Posted 9th Mar 2012 at 16:55
mattgti6phase2

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Post #8
asim_pug306 wrote:
This Cheap and cheerful Thumbs up


And will give you 300+bhp no problems.

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Posted 9th Mar 2012 at 17:56
davewagon

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Post #9
mattgti6phase2 wrote:
asim_pug306 wrote:
This Cheap and cheerful Thumbs up


And will give you 300+bhp no problems.


Stuck one of these on my kettle at home, instant boiling water!
Then stuck it on my grandad's mobility scooter, never saw him again!

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Posted 9th Mar 2012 at 18:03
justinaccurate

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Post #10
Sell it and buy a V8
Posted 9th Mar 2012 at 18:13
owain

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Post #11
New member? Check.
Wants power mods? Check.
Wants them cheap? Check.
Hasn't searched? Check.
Can't spell? Check.
Already has shit exhaust? Check.

/thread is going nowhere.

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Posted 9th Mar 2012 at 18:15
nashy

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Post #12
owain wrote:
New member? Check.
Wants power mods? Check.
Wants them cheap? Check.
Hasn't searched? Check.
Can't spell? Check.
Already has shit exhaust? Check.

/thread is going nowhere.


Suprised Rich hasnt been along with the lock hammer already, another newbie got that treatment yesterday LOL

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Posted 9th Mar 2012 at 18:34
davewagon

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Post #13
And he's paid 20 bucks??!!

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Posted 9th Mar 2012 at 18:59
barnettjd77

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Post #14
New member? Check.
Wants power mods? Check.
Wants them cheap? Check.
Hasn't searched? Check.
Can't spell? Check.
Already has shit exhaust? Check.

/thread is going nowhere...


yeah that's really helpful to someone that is new to the site and still working out how to use it properly!

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Posted 9th Mar 2012 at 19:40
anth

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Post #15
Nothing comes cheap im afraid and in actual fact since owning an lcr I've realised how cheap Upgrade parts for the 6 actually are!

Best thing I done to mine was throw about 1500 quid at the suspension and transmission, was a brilliant drive. Unfortunately I then decided I wanted a turbo and it wasn't cost effective to turbo or supercharge a gti6 at the time. So I sold it, but already decided il own another one eventually.

Posted 9th Mar 2012 at 20:08
eliotrw

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Post #16
Hybrid arb and xsara jets Razz

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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 00:14
monkeyman

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Post #17
Standard powered engine, uprated suspension, uprated tyres, uprated driver, weight reduction

http://youtu.be/zVMwnChxBdg

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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 11:29
eliotrw

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Post #18
I wonder how that video would be if he had a 2.1 or supercharger...

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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 11:54
xaero1

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Post #19
Would definitely agree with the suspension arguments

I was on track at Knockhill on Saturday in my Rallye (with hybrid ARB fitted) against a GTI6 which had added Bilstein suspension and he was destroying me through the corners.

In fact my friend's R33 GTS-T Skyline running about 300bhp, caged and running slicks was struggling to keep up with the GTI6. I was well impressed.

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Posted 12th Mar 2012 at 14:31
marco gti6

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Post #20
xaero1 wrote:
Would definitely agree with the suspension arguments

I was on track at Knockhill on Saturday in my Rallye (with hybrid ARB fitted) against a GTI6 which had added Bilstein suspension and he was destroying me through the corners.

In fact my friend's R33 GTS-T Skyline running about 300bhp, caged and running slicks was struggling to keep up with the GTI6. I was well impressed.


Do you know what Bilstein he had on his 6 by any chance??
Posted 12th Mar 2012 at 17:21
eliotrw

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Post #21
Going to be b8s surely.

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Posted 12th Mar 2012 at 17:32
redrallye

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Post #22
xaero1 wrote:
Would definitely agree with the suspension arguments

I was on track at Knockhill on Saturday in my Rallye (with hybrid ARB fitted) against a GTI6 which had added Bilstein suspension and he was destroying me through the corners.

In fact my friend's R33 GTS-T Skyline running about 300bhp, caged and running slicks was struggling to keep up with the GTI6. I was well impressed.


Bilstein rock

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Posted 12th Mar 2012 at 18:10
miles

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Post #23
As long as the backs are not 306 ones, the performance of these is pretty poor, ARB wise I would say a 30mm is what you need without fail

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Posted 12th Mar 2012 at 19:25
marco gti6

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Post #24
miles wrote:
As long as the backs are not 306 ones, the performance of these is pretty poor, ARB wise I would say a 30mm is what you need without fail

Miles would you mind elaborating on that? The reason i'm asking is that i recently installed a Bilstein B12 pro-kit on mine and compared to standard it is great. Mind i also use solid rear beam mounts, no thicker tb's or arb. However it is true that the rear still feels a little, how should i put this, sensible.
What rear shocks would you recomend then?
Thanks in advance Thumbs up
Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 13:20
welshpug!

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Post #25
early B4 205+306 rears were damn poo, later ones have a much larger body and are a little shorter.

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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 13:35

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