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Unfortunately, it sounds very much like a bent valve issue...
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 stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 18:38
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #27
fook me, that's 100% a tapper!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 18:46
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wayne-o-mac_123
Junior User  Location: ripon Registered: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Status: Offline |
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Even though somedays it doesn't tap at all? I'm gutted if it is only had it a month or so. That'll be a head rebuild then is it with hg and Cambelt going to be well over 1k isn't it? |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 19:22
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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naaahh, well under if you're careful with costs, a typical HG from me comes in at around £400 min, add a tenner or so per valve plus some more for the machine work to recut the seats, probably £5-600.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 19:54
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #30
clicky for tapper________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 20:05
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sixysix
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 2,659 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Sounds like a tapper for sure and louder than any I have heard before including my own car which needed sorting a while back.Thing is, if it's a tapper, it would tap all the time, not come and go randomly. I would try changing for some descent oil and a filter first if the tapping is on and off. If it taps all the time, then head off is the only way. Also bear in mind that the engine can go for quite some time before the valve head falls off and mangles your engine so if you plan on keeping the car, then get it done asap. The value of these cars have gone down a lot so it's a lot of money to put into the car against it's value. I forked out for it because I have spend a fair bit on the car anyway renewing the suspension and various other parts and I don't consider selling mine any time soon so it was worth while  ________________________________________ My Pugrun 2007/2009 video clipsTake a look Pugrun 2007...Lose yourself  Xbox Live ID: Marksixysix (Forza 3, Forza 4 PES 2010, COD 6/MW2, WRC 2010). PSN ID: MarkSixysix ( DiRT 3 GT5, NFS:Hot pursuit). P1 Diablo red 6 gone but not forgotten |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 20:23
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #32
Or just buy mine ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 20:42
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wayne-o-mac_123
Junior User Location: ripon Registered: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Status: Offline |
Post #33
yeah thats the predicament i'm in as to just selling the car as it is or throwing money at something which is never going to pay me back, compared to the video i took a couple of days ago when there was no tapping it's mad how different the engine sounds, quite often if i start it up on a morning and leave it to warm up say a couple of minutes it tapps like on the video but after a steady drive to work about 8-10miles it quitens down completeley, heres the video i took a couple of days ago with no tapping: http://s1052.photobucket.com/albums/s444/wayne-o-mac_123/?action=view¤t=002.mp4 surely it cant sound so diffeerent from day to day if it's got a bent valve/valves?? |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 21:20
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #34
diesel??? lol no defo a tapper or lack of oil ________________________________________ |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 21:24
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wayne-o-mac_123
Junior User Location: ripon Registered: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Status: Offline |
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defiantley isnt lack oil it's only been changed in the last few weeks, was just under max before and is right on max now, looks like its a bent valve then, i imagine that i would get more money out of breaking it as no one is going to want it for good money sounding like this are they. think i'll run it till it dies and then break the car or find a replacement engine |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 21:27
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #36
an engine is gonna be in the region of 300 so u may aswel fix this one, better to spend some dollar on this n make it good than spending less on what pothentially do the same to you like a week after you have fitted it.________________________________________ |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 21:37
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #37
an engine is gonna be in the region of 300 so u may aswel fix this one, better to spend some dollar on this n make it good than spending less on what pothentially do the same to you like a week after you have fitted it.________________________________________ |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 21:37
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peetypug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Spooning marksorrento205 Registered: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,869 Status: Offline |
Post #38
That's the loudest tapper I've ever heard Can be done DIY for about 400 max HG, bolts, good known head, oil, coolant, other gaskets ________________________________________ Cherry rallye - DOB Thursday 29/04/1999Team Rallye - the leaner, meaner, better looking sister of the GTI6  roland rat wrote: You sir either live for the 6 or have a mental retardation to still be repairing this! The best engine in the world is the vagina, it takes any size piston, its self lubricating, starts with 1 finger, and every 4 weeks does its own oil change. It's just a pity the management system is so fecking temperamental. |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 21:37
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wayne-o-mac_123
Junior User Location: ripon Registered: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Status: Offline |
Post #39
wish i could do the work myself but my mechanical knowledge stretches as far as doing brakes, exhaust etc couldnt do hg/cambelt and changing valves. |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 21:49
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wayne-o-mac_123
Junior User Location: ripon Registered: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Status: Offline |
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fatlapit wrote: an engine is gonna be in the region of 300 so u may aswel fix this one, better to spend some dollar on this n make it good than spending less on what pothentially do the same to you like a week after you have fitted it. yeah but surley 300/400 hundred for a new engine is half what it'll cost to get the head stripped and re-built and h/g cambelt and pump plus labour on top. . as much as i like the rallye and pugs in general just cant justify spending that kind of cash on a 13year old car with over 100k |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 21:53
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Welshpug has offered to do it for u 5-600 all in, not bad in my opinion. U would pay 300. For an engine then labour to fit on top of that then the risk of the engine needing work and so on. Does anyone know if rich supplies rebuilt heads?________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 22:01
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #42
thing is it wont be a "new" engine, it'll be an unknown used engine that could well pop its clogs next week.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 22:01
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wayne-o-mac_123
Junior User Location: ripon Registered: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Status: Offline |
Post #43
i really do appreciate the offer,however you are really far away from me to just pop the car in for the work and it's currently my daily driver and i dont have a second car, ideally it's going to have to wait till i can get some cash together to buy a decentish runaround so i can take the pug off road and decide what to do with it |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 22:06
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
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wayne-o-mac_123 wrote: fatlapit wrote: an engine is gonna be in the region of 300 so u may aswel fix this one, better to spend some dollar on this n make it good than spending less on what pothentially do the same to you like a week after you have fitted it. yeah but surley 300/400 hundred for a new engine is half what it'll cost to get the head stripped and re-built and h/g cambelt and pump plus labour on top. . as much as i like the rallye and pugs in general just cant justify spending that kind of cash on a 13year old car with over 100k just think how bad i feel when i`m spending 6k on mine and its not even bust lol but at the end of the day its your car n cash so do whatever but a rebuild is ftw. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 22:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #45
it wasnt an offer, that's just my rough estimate of ho much it'd cost to fix  but yes I could sort it ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 22:25
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sixysix
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 2,659 Status: Offline |
Post #46
There have been previous members on here who had tapping from cold which goes once warmed up and IIRC an oil change did the trick.I changed my oil and filter a few days ago. Total qurtz 7000 5Ltr = £25, Genuine Peugeot filter and sump washer = around £5 For the sakes of £30 and half hour, I would give that a try before anything else ________________________________________ My Pugrun 2007/2009 video clipsTake a look Pugrun 2007...Lose yourself Xbox Live ID: Marksixysix (Forza 3, Forza 4 PES 2010, COD 6/MW2, WRC 2010). PSN ID: MarkSixysix ( DiRT 3 GT5, NFS:Hot pursuit). P1 Diablo red 6 gone but not forgotten |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 22:58
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heidi6
Regular  Location: Cornwall Registered: 30 Nov 2011 Posts: 409 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Jees. I had no idea a tapper was that loud. Guess I was lucky when I was looking, never came across one. That noise sounds similar to when the little ends go.I think I would justify repairing the engine if I were you, sod what the car's worth, if we all thought like that there wouldn't be many second hand cars on the road... ________________________________________ IPhase 3 Astor. Built on Wednesday, 12th April 2000 in France. Years of 'Creative Maintenance' mean this car is now much lighter and slightly more 'race' specced...  |
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Posted 5th Mar 2012 at 23:14
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wayne-o-mac_123
Junior User Location: ripon Registered: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Status: Offline |
Post #48
had it to another garage today that live and breath all things peugeot and they said after 2 of them inspecting it. . definatley 100% hydrolic lifter problem as it's intermittent, they said if it had bent or chipped a valve then it would tap constantley, and not get louder 1 minute and then after a few miles of driving be completley quietthey just advised a real good engine flush or 2 to get the crap out and some decent oil and not to worry about it at all so i'm alot happier man than yesterday  |
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Posted 6th Mar 2012 at 22:21
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #49
Good news then, sort of. Although hydraulic tappet problems on these are pretty much unheard of, but I suppose anything can fail. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 7th Mar 2012 at 11:36
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woody.
Senior User  Location: London Registered: 18 May 2009 Posts: 799 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Have you sorted this out mate? |
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Posted 9th Mar 2012 at 11:31
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