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Author Subject: the difference between group A and group N?
allsmiles

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Post #1
hi folks, just wanted to pick your brains really, im looking at suspension set ups for my 205 and i keep seeing the words group A and group N flying about with the suspension set ups, thing is im not sure which one is the better group to go for, im looking at a track only set up

i am aware of what group A and N is in terms of rallying tho

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Posted 11th Dec 2011 at 13:14
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Post #2
group A cars make the "aaaaaaaaa" noise when revved. and the group N ones go "nnnnnnnnn"

group A cars are modified massively basically and don't really resemble their roadgoing cars, whereas Group N cars are marginally the same but with mods like cages, engine mods. i think group A cars are seamwelded throughout whereas it's not required for the group N ones

phillipm may be able to confirm/deny

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Posted 11th Dec 2011 at 15:40
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_B#Groups_N.2C_A_and_B

as for your 205 suspension a lot of the time it is merely a play on words to get you to buy something more 'uprated' and they bung a "grp-n" or "grp-a" prefix on their so you buy it

my magnex exhaust is a "grp-a pugsport" and it's got strenghtening gussets on the backbox and a stamp, whereas i think the normal ones didn't

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Posted 11th Dec 2011 at 15:41
rallyeash

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alot of it is just marketing bullshit Thumbs up

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Posted 11th Dec 2011 at 15:46
welshpug!

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rallyeash wrote:
alot of it is just marketing bullshit Thumbs up



these days definitely, though not back when the cars were new and being used properly.

Group A wasn't that wildly modified, still Single butterfly afaik, group N was basically standard with safety equipment.


for track stuff you don't want to look at rally bits, you want track bits Thumbs up

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Posted 11th Dec 2011 at 17:33
dodsworth_gti

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it all depends what you are going to be doing with the car really

explain a bit of what your going to be doing and you may get pointed in the right direction]

one expamle of group a and group n in suspension could also be down to the mounts

group a usually solid,ally of poly

group n usually 'stiffer and tougher than standard' bushes
Posted 11th Dec 2011 at 18:05
miles

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Post #7
The only group 'N' part now really for a 205 is the Bilstein Dampers, I always say to people the word's

'Competition', 'Race', 'Rally' can mean anything, I could go and Race a std 306 then sell parts with these words as I wouldn't be telling fib's

Plus as WP said most are restricted by rules just like BTCC stuff is so you can buy allot better with a specification of what you are buying

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Posted 11th Dec 2011 at 21:29
allsmiles

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cheers for the replies guys, im mainly looking at track suspension and i have come across these on ebay, worth a punt?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-205-CHALLENGE-SPEC-GROUP-N-FRONT-REAR-BILSTEIN-/270855475331?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f103e9083

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Posted 12th Dec 2011 at 03:24

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