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arigti6

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Ever since I made a fatal error in letting my GTi6 get written off by my insurance. I have been longing to get back in the driving seat of another but today I drove an Octavia TDi 55 plate (not a VRS) and instantly loved it! I only drove it a matter of about 100yards but it was such a comfortable and leisurely drive I could have happily taken it for a joy ride LOL

I just had a look at the VRS' models of the same age on AT and the price range seems fair,(considering milage/no of owners/year etc) I would probably go for the 150/170 TDi PDI model (Performance but still fair on the MPG with reliabilty) but deep down I know I long for another '6 but I can't help feeling I need a change. What should I do? Dunno

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Posted 24th Oct 2011 at 21:03

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Posted 24th Oct 2011 at 21:21

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mattgti6phase2

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Loads
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Trouble
Usually
Serious

Laugh my ass off

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Posted 24th Oct 2011 at 21:30

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arigti6

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^ I agree with him Whistle

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Posted 24th Oct 2011 at 21:33

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SteviePut

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mattgti6phase2 wrote:

Loads
Of
Trouble
Usually
Serious

Laugh my ass off

You're thinking K series LOL

Mines a Yota Smile

Touch wood tho, mines been fine so far Razz

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Posted 24th Oct 2011 at 21:36

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Pd170 with a dpf delete and stage 2 nvm remap is what you need. Smile

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Posted 24th Oct 2011 at 22:03

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mattgti6phase2

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mabgti wrote:

Pd170 with a dpf delete and stage 2 nvm remap is what you need. Smile

Then you'll see the smoke signals from space LOL

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Posted 24th Oct 2011 at 22:25

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Diesels all the way nowdays just make sure you stick a full exhaust system on it with a turbo whistler Smile

Posted 24th Oct 2011 at 23:52

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mabgti

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mattgti6phase2 wrote:

mabgti wrote:

Pd170 with a dpf delete and stage 2 nvm remap is what you need. Smile

Then you'll see the smoke signals from space LOL

Not as much as you might think.. its clever variable vane trubos!

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 01:04

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arigti6

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mabgti wrote:

Pd170 with a dpf delete and stage 2 nvm remap is what you need. Smile

Sorry Mabs but that means nothing to me? LOL

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 01:08

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SteviePut

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arigti6 wrote:

mabgti wrote:

Pd170 with a dpf delete and stage 2 nvm remap is what you need. Smile

Sorry Mabs but that means nothing to me? LOL

He's trying to sell you a remap matey Smile

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 07:06

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mattgti6phase2

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mabgti wrote:

mattgti6phase2 wrote:

mabgti wrote:

Pd170 with a dpf delete and stage 2 nvm remap is what you need. Smile

Then you'll see the smoke signals from space LOL

Not as much as you might think.. its clever variable vane trubos!

Indeed quite clever. Near enough no lag and no need for a waste gate. The vanes are pretty weird though as to how they adjust/move to keep the turbo boosting at it's best. do all newer cars use these now mab? Pretty old technology as far as diesels are concerned.

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 07:46

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i thought the pd150/170's suffered from big problems especially when mapped. Camshaft is made of chocolate apparently.

Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 12:43

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lewisdmz wrote:

i thought the pd150/170's suffered from big problems especially when mapped. Camshaft is made of chocolate apparently.

You will only here horror stories on the net, no one ever posts about how good something is. Mine PD150 Leon has been fine.

I did a similar thing, sold my '6 to get a Leon 150 TDi. They are cheap to run, feel well built, pleasent to drive, etc. My main negative was it isn't as involving to drive and now I'm selling to fund a house deposit I've been hit by this depreciation thing. Previously I'd only spend £1,500 on a car, in 12 months thats how much value my car has lost! Unsure

Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 13:02

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Camshafts are fine if the correct servicing is followed in terms of oil, if the wrong oil is used the the lobes on the camshafts wear very quickly and become coslty, doing the usual warm up/cool down helps to imo

Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 13:08

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arigti6

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SteviePut wrote:

arigti6 wrote:

mabgti wrote:

Pd170 with a dpf delete and stage 2 nvm remap is what you need. Smile

Sorry Mabs but that means nothing to me? LOL

He's trying to sell you a remap matey Smile

I gathered that much but no idea what DPF is? Dunno

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 18:57

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mattgti6phase2

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Diesel particilulate filter Thumbs up

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 19:02

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Diesel Particle Filter. Basically a cat for a derv.

Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 19:05

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My brother has VRS, constantly thinks his car is much faster than my GTi6. Close but stats and our odd quick spurt race prooves him wrong Smile

They are solid cars, comfy, look funny if your short as the front is quite high and hides most of the driver from view in the rear mirror of the car in front.

They are quick, and rev very very low, when idle reve near 0!

Pulls well. Corners well. Bust IMO just not as fun and as quick as the 6, close but not close enough.

Also you do get problems with them, as you do with most cars, but on my brothers VRS they seem to be expensive to put right.

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 19:19

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sarahsix

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they clog up if you dont give the car beans very often....my mother in law (if gareth ever makes an honest woman outta me) has one and she has had problems with the dpf, AA man says she doesnt give the car enough stick and the skoda dealers round here almost always has one in with the same problem......i cant see somebody who has owned a gti6 to have the problem of a light right foot though LOL

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 19:20

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mattgti6phase2 wrote:

mabgti wrote:

mattgti6phase2 wrote:

mabgti wrote:

Pd170 with a dpf delete and stage 2 nvm remap is what you need. Smile

Then you'll see the smoke signals from space LOL

Not as much as you might think.. its clever variable vane trubos!

Just diesels At the
Moment as petrol engines run to hot for the
Material
The vanes are made
From, but they are working on making the vanes withstand higher temperatures so suitable for
Petrols and still be affordable.

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 20:15

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buzzbrightyear

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mattgti6phase2 wrote:

mabgti wrote:

mattgti6phase2 wrote:

mabgti wrote:

Pd170 with a dpf delete and stage 2 nvm remap is what you need. Smile

Then you'll see the smoke signals from space LOL

Not as much as you might think.. its clever variable vane trubos!

Just diesels At the
Moment as petrol engines run to hot for the
Material
The vanes are made
From, but they are working on making the vanes withstand higher temperatures and still be affordable.

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Moonstone phase 7 gti6
My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1

Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 20:17

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SteviePut wrote:

Buy a Lotus Thumbs up

I didn't see him say he was gay or a hairdresser......... Dunno

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 20:52

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Posted 25th Oct 2011 at 22:35

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lewisdmz wrote:

i thought the pd150/170's suffered from big problems especially when mapped. Camshaft is made of chocolate apparently.

The GTI-6 has a Chocolate cambelt, Chocolate rear beam, chocolate headgasket, Chocolate ICV, fans that shit themselves, they stall frequently to often, the alarms are w*nk and keep you up all night....... but we still buy em LOL

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