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cornish_pug

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Ok, I know about the rear axle problems that the 306 can suffer from. A lot of people say that when the stub axle bearings go you can get play in the stub axle joint & negative camber, correct?
I've got some negative camber but no play in the stub axle assembly. My question is this, is it only definitely worn bearings that cause negative camber? The camber is negative on both sides, the rear bushes have gone too which i'm thinking of changing.

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Posted 20th Sep 2011 at 21:57
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often you wont be able to detect any play due to the tension they are held under by the arb torsion bars and dampers.

it is only worn bearings that will cause neg camber, typically whacking a wheel against a kerb or similar will produce positive camber.


bushes cause clonking and wayward handling.

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Posted 20th Sep 2011 at 22:27
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cornish_pug

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So by maybe unbolting the dampers you may be able to detect some sort of play?

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Posted 20th Sep 2011 at 23:36
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coskev

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Unlikely IMO as if you have camber it will be the inner bearing collapsed,will be hard to feel any play as outer bearing will still be intact.

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Posted 24th Sep 2011 at 21:14
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matt evans

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Either way, excessive neg camber at the back spells bad news, normally its the inner bearings in the beam tube that have gone. Like welshpug says, its nigh on impossible to asses with everything bolted together under tension, only propper way is to strip and inspect.

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Posted 24th Sep 2011 at 21:31
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Might be a cheaper route to do what i just done and collect a referbed beam from jord and sling it on. He does a part ex fitting service too so just drive up wait a while and drive back all fixed. Smile

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Posted 25th Sep 2011 at 09:35
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welshpug!

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not from cornwall LOL

easiest route is to get a cheap donor axle to rebuild and swapthem, no rushing to get it done in a day then, though if you have access to a workspace and decent tools its not hard to do a rebuild in a few hours

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Posted 25th Sep 2011 at 09:46
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owain

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welshpug! wrote:
easiest route is to get a cheap donor axle to rebuild and swap them


Absolutely this. I bought a spare for about £60, complete refurb then just swapped it over. Could've even sold the old one back to someone else to get the £60 back if I was that bothered, but it felt more in line with the rest of the project to just let cash burn and rust into nothingness in my garage.

There will be problems, bearings will be stuck, stuff might break or be seized - the last thing you need is your car being off the road at the same time Yes

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Posted 25th Sep 2011 at 09:50
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cwspellowe

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Mine were that collapsed there was a good 5mm or so of play even with everything bolted up!

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Posted 25th Sep 2011 at 11:01
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aaron6

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I picked mine up from jord. Still worked out cheaper than getting it referbed down here plus it was a nice roadtrip/day out. Smile

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Posted 25th Sep 2011 at 12:14
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cornish_pug

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Yeah propably worth picking up a second hand one & doing a refurb. At least that way i can still use the car for work, I'll just build it bit by bit. Then when it's done do the swap.

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Posted 25th Sep 2011 at 21:38
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