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Author Subject: No fuel/spark: 309 VTS conversion
24seven

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Post #1
Copied from the 309 forum:

Ok so I managed to get my VTS conversion running to get me down to Swansea, albeit a bit rich without a lambda sensor but it ran fine otherwise. It started up fine the next day twice, but another day later I went to move it and it wouldn't fire. No spark or fuel. I've tried a 2nd unlocked ECU and another double-relay unit that comes out of the loom near the ECU plug (thanks Ash), but so far no joy. The fuel pump should be priming on the 2nd click as well, but it's stopped doing that too. I've tried bypassing the inertia switch as well which didn't make a difference either.

In my hunt for poor connections I found these 2 plugs behind the fuse box that look like they should be bolted to the chassis as earths, does anyone know what they do?



Also this little red wire with a blue plug was loose behind there.



I didn't find any duff fuses or anything in any place I looked either. there are 2 relays at the back of the engine bay on the passenger side that look past their best from the outside. Could these be relevant to it?

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Posted 19th May 2011 at 02:42
allanallen

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Post #2
Don't earth the two plugs behind the dash, they can cause all sorts of problems if you do.
Is the double relay clicking when you turn the key on? If not I suggest you get the multi meter out and firstly check what you've got at the double relay, from memory your switched live should either be pin 2 or 3. There's a decent wiring diagram floating around drivers.

How are checking the spark? Remember Rs coilpacks need an earth to there body to work.

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Posted 19th May 2011 at 11:24
24seven

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Thanks Allan, I'll check the spark again soon as I can (my battery's flat) as I didn't earth the coilpack. I've found a few references to the fuel pump not running no these conversions on 205s but nothing related to 309s (not that there's any real difference though), but more importantly these all seem to be related to incorrect wiring - Mine must be wired properly since it had been running for a couple of days before failing to start, plus It's one I bought from Spiky that he had running fine in his car previously.

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Posted 27th May 2011 at 01:38
24seven

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All sorted! traced it to a loose fitting permanent live in the brown multiplugs. I suddenly found that knocking the cover above the pedals meant the car would start fine as it manipulated the pins to create a connection.

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Posted 31st May 2011 at 03:35

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