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Author Subject: 57i indution Filter V dirty
daicarvideoguy

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Hi All
I have recently bought a Blaze GTi-6 which has a K&N 57i induction kit on it and an uprated nissen Rad.

I am looking to service the car before a i do a road trip with friends in mid May and when I had a look at the Filter on the 57i it was covered in dirt and oil.
Do i replace it with one of those green cone filters or a K&N filter or can I wash it?

All so what off the shelf spark plugs should i use?

All the best
Dai

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Posted 28th Apr 2011 at 14:08
will130787

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Use Bosch super4 spark plugs.

Get a cleaning kit for your cone filter, k+n make their own!

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Posted 28th Apr 2011 at 15:14
mattgti6phase2

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will130787 wrote:
Use Bosch super4 spark plugs.

Get a cleaning kit for your cone filter, k+n make their own!


^^^^^^^

What Will said.

When you clean the filte though hot soapy water and a brush
will do fine. A hair dryer speeds up the drying process. Its pointless applying the oil that the k&n kit provide to put on once it's clean. If anything it just attracts dirt and doesn't give as easy breathing as running it without the oil does.

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Posted 28th Apr 2011 at 15:22
mik

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mattgti6phase2 wrote:

Its pointless applying the oil that the k&n kit provide to put on once it's clean. If anything it just attracts dirt and doesn't give as easy breathing as running it without the oil does.


Depends on how long you want your engine to last I suppose.

Yes the K&N oil attracts dirt, which is why it is there - to trap the dirt before it gets into your engine! The oil is a key part of the function of the K&N filter so it should be used according to the instructions at
http://www.knfilters.com/cleaning.htm


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Posted 28th Apr 2011 at 15:37
mattgti6phase2

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Depends on how long you want your engine to last I suppose.

Yes the K&N oil attracts dirt, which is why it is there - to trap the dirt before it gets into your engine! The oil is a key part of the function of the K&N filter so it should be used according to the instructions at
http://www.knfilters.com/cleaning.htm


But the cotton itself will stop this. I have run all my panel
filters dry for years and no problems. It still traps the dirt as it should.

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Posted 28th Apr 2011 at 16:27
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NGK or Peugeot plugs all the way over the Bosch Super 4s. Pointless waste of money imo.
Get a K&N filter cleaning kit and do it properly. They do need the oil to work right, but then need to be cleaned more often. You don't need to buy a new filter - that is the point of them.

However on another note considering the price of a 'performance' panel filter on the volvo i'd need to do about 100k miles before it made financial sense!

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Posted 28th Apr 2011 at 16:37
mattgti6phase2

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However on another note considering the price of a 'performance' panel filter on the volvo i'd need to do about 100k miles before it made financial sense!


Woah! How much is a panel filter for that??

Panel filter for the 6 = £40.

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Posted 28th Apr 2011 at 16:54
daicarvideoguy

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SO I took it off and there was oil inside the pipes



oil, inside the pipe coming from Filter



The condition of the filter



I have washed it all in hot soapy water and just taking advantage of the Free drying weather we are having today before resembling.

I have cleaned the oil out of the area just before the butterfly valve on the engine but will it just come back?

Any ideas?

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Posted 28th Apr 2011 at 19:12
mik

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For info on how a K&N filter works, see this: http://www.aptfast.com/kn_additional_stuff/KN_airfilter_facts.htm

(It is a bit of a marketing blurb from K&N so don't expect all sides of the argument!).

Personally I am a bit lukewarm about K&N filters in general as, despite any marketing blurb, logic says they must let larger particles into the engine - even when properly oiled, i.e. better flow = bigger holes through which the air flows = larger particles in your engine. How can it be otherwise? My car came with a K&N cone filter installed and I am considering returning it to stock. On the other hand they have sold untold millions of these things and most people seem happy with them.

If there is oil in your intake system it is either because the filter was well over-oiled, or because you have clogged breather hoses or even a worn engine. Is the oil in your intake system K&N oil or engine oil? K&N says (see link above) that a properly oiled filter will not let excess oil into the intake system, and there are arguments all over the internet about whether or not the filter oil is clogging air flow sensors.

I would clean the filter, re-oil it as per instructions, clean out the breather hoses and reassemble, checking it after a few hundred miles. Or perhaps return it to stock.

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