Hi guys, I appreciate this isn't the best place to ask but you guys have a lot more knowledge than other 306/peugeot forums!

I'm looking to start a bit of a track project using my 306. Currently I'm running an 8 valve 1.6 TU but I'm looking to do a VTS/106GTI 16V conversion.

So, as far as I am aware the engine and gearbox mounts are the same and in terms of mounting the engine there are no issues. My car is a single pin ECU, so if I got a single pin early VTS engine I shouldn't run into any issues with running the engine through standard plugs and fittings?

I plan on removing the PAS, however I would like to keep ABS. However that will all remain in tact?

Basically I'm just after a bit of advice so I can keep mistakes to a minimum.

I know I will be told to "just buy a six" but I've got a mint shell which is perfect for building on. I already have a solid mounted rear beam, 6 discs and Koni suspension fitted, along with buckets, harnesses and all the bells and whistles. It's just missing the legs!

Any help would be great, I'm off to the Nurburgring on May 6th and I'll be doing the conversion when I get back and will hopefully have it up and running by the end of May.


Cheers

as above, a 6 is so cheap these days its not worth it unless you have a multipoint caged shell already kitted out with proper trick suspension.

with the number opf already fadt road spec "track cars" out there, no point converting an XS

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Bring on the Trumpets.

honestly,...

buy those bits cheap as chips,
sell them on for as much as poss,

buy a cheap but well maintained 6 strip it out,
sell those bits using the funds to buy uprated track mods,

I would sit there p*ssing about trying to build one from scratch near enough,..

just my opinion mind you do what you want but to me that's a hell of a lot of work!

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you wont be in the 1.6 class as a gti6/vts is a 2.0, basically the conversion for both is identical, you need engine box wiring loom subbrake gear linkages driveshafts hubs cooling system exhaust rear beam

i.e the whole car bar the shell

for a competition car, I would definitely not be choosing a mint shell, as it wont be mint for long...

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Bring on the Trumpets.

Noooo, I'm talking Saxo VTS/106GTI engine!

I don't *want* to do a GTI6 upgrade, but obviously the more powerful engine would be a more beneficial swap so I was just curios.

I want to stick 1.6 or under due to the categories for local sprinting and hill climbing, the TU J engine will offer me the easiest power upgrade. It was the reason I bought an XSin the first place. My current shell is mint, stripped and already fitted with buckets, harnesses and already has the suspension and brakes required to get me started.

I just want to know how compatible the VTS engine is going to be and wether anybody on here had done a Saxo VTR to VTS swap as my engine is essentially a VTR engine.

another thing, if you have got tb's and cams in the J4 engine (1.6 16v ma) you will need proper managment and a loom to suit. this will be over 1k if you buy a dta, loom and mapping session.

gearbox's as above are shit on the TU engines, Be conversions are possible but hardly worth doing in a tu engine'd 306.

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230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here
309 3dr K20 Type R

try comparing a stripped 306 versus a stripped 106, you'll be surprised

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Yeah, you do a search and you get unhelpful f*cks telling other people to do a search or if you search on the pug306.net forum you get unhelpful f*cks telling you to put a diesel in it!

Or as this thread shows, you get people telling you not to bother in the first place and just "buy a 6"

http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=107899&page=1

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I sound a bit ranty there, it's not because I'm miserable or thick and don't know how to search. It's just that I have searched and have not found a proper "this is what you need to do".

I'm going to bother though

People told me not to bother tuning my 8V, but I saw good returns on it and it wasn't all that bad. I just find it really unhelpful being told something I didn't ask for. I asked for any known compatibility issues when going from an 8V to a VTS engine in a 306.

If somebody could give me a definitive "this is whats needed for a GTI6 conversion" I would contemplate that instead. But as far as I can see a VTS swap would be a day job using 90% of the standard bits that I could do myself but nobody seems to know about putting one in a 306.

We'll see what I can do! If its a massive PITA I won't bother, I'll look to using another car for track day fun and selling on my 306. But I don't want to sell it

We'll see what happens

I'm going to have a dig around a friends VTS at the weekend and take a few photos and see what I make of it. Thanks!