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gilesy

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Alright chaps. Had a bit of a knock(yes I know, rare on a 306) and through a process of elimination tracked it down to the beauty below. Now I've replaced it and had it tracked but the garage I got it done at are only willing to refund the cost of the part. Was done less than 10 months ago.

I contacted the garage owner about the state of the rubber boot last year when I changed the balljoints and he said he would 'post me a replacement' without mentioning tracking. I've had to do this and pay for it myself so having a bit of a 'mantrum' about it LOL

His words yesterday were "Sorry mate, the part failing is not my doing, I will compensate the part etc (warranty) but that's as far as I can go otherwise I am working for free."

Posted 16th Jan 2011 at 15:23
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sport1901966

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I think some manufactures use a really poor quality rubber compound on these type of components. I bought and fitted some droplinks for the 205 that is currently a project, 6 months later the rubber was completely degraded - the car hadn't even been driven.

I always give them a nice smear of grease to hold the moisture better.

Pain in the arse about having to pay to retrack it, could always do it yourself with the stringing method lol
Posted 16th Jan 2011 at 17:12
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gilesy

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I normally give everything I disturb/replace a smearing of grease/copper ease either on the thread or if its a lock nut, cover it with copper ease just for if when I have to take it off!
Posted 16th Jan 2011 at 17:23
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miles

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Cheap parts is the reason, I know that GSF to name one (Vtech brand) do this for a past time, it's really the majority of people wanting the cheapest parts or only being offered them for the most mark up

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Posted 16th Jan 2011 at 18:43
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fletch

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I always used Pug wishbones and TREs for exactly this reason. Cheaper parts seem to disintegrate for fun.
Posted 16th Jan 2011 at 20:47
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thugpuggin

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This is a TRE fail Laugh

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Posted 16th Jan 2011 at 21:47
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Laugh

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Posted 16th Jan 2011 at 22:01
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fletch

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I always used Pug wishbones and TREs for exactly this reason. Cheaper parts seem to disintegrate for fun.
Posted 16th Jan 2011 at 23:41
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thugpuggin

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fletch wrote:
Cheaper parts seem to disintegrate for fun.


Bit like your mind Matt, you posted the same at 15.47 Laugh

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Posted 17th Jan 2011 at 00:03
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fletch

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Good old web site, 4 years of a shit server, one day it will work first time.
Posted 17th Jan 2011 at 00:14
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buzzbrightyear

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Have you had it aligned yet?

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Posted 30th Mar 2013 at 23:11
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welshpug!

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buzz, feck off back in your hole Thumbs up

he's had several cars since and afaik does not have a 306 even.

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Posted 30th Mar 2013 at 23:36
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beez_neez_gt

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Silicone grease will help stop them degrading but since they are cheap they will still go bad sooner than later. I agree pay a bit more for ones that last, cheap are usually false economy unless car is being sold etc.

I dont use copper grease anymore except brake pads, i use graphite aluminium grease, its superior at stopping the rust, water and seizing and is good to use on the alloys hub fitment area.

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Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 02:46
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pooouk

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sport1901966 wrote:

I always give them a nice smear of grease to hold the moisture better.


What sort of grease? "normal" grease attacks rubber, you need red rubber grease.

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Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 09:58
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gilesy

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I had it aligned, looks a bit weird since they gave it me back though?

Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 11:46
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buzzbrightyear

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welshpug! wrote:
buzz, feck off back in your hole Thumbs up

he's had several cars since and afaik does not have a 306 even.

Speak for yourself Citroen boy.

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Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 14:37
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welshpug!

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I don't go round digging up old useless unwanted threads now Do I buzznotsobrightyear Thumbs up

Daily drive is a Pug FYI.

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Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 15:00
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beez_neez_gt

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pooouk wrote:
sport1901966 wrote:

I always give them a nice smear of grease to hold the moisture better.


What sort of grease? "normal" grease attacks rubber, you need red rubber grease.

Nick



Yes or as said silicone grease, always best to say exactly what type of grease so others wont make the mistake and apply the incorrect grease. Grease will mean road grime grit will want to stick to the rubber and wearing it out more so silicone grease around the outside would be the best stuff to use at repelling the water and thus protect the rubber more.

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Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 15:56
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buzzbrightyear

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welshpug! wrote:
I don't go round digging up old useless unwanted threads now Do I buzznotsobrightyear Thumbs up

Daily drive is a Pug FYI.


I ment the hole Smile

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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 19:27
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buzzbrightyear

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I wouldn't put any grease on the outside of the rubbers, can't see the point, them rubbers last year's and years, well I've never had any degrade and crack that I've fitted or on cars I've had, basics seen it on others though.
maybe it is a price thing, I always buy genuine that's probably why I've never had the issue

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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 19:29
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