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well after a year i have finally managed to get my Supercharged 205 running. only thing is now the top end is tapping. it wasnt tapping when i took it all apart and from what i can make out i think its one of the lifters that hasnt had any oil to it what with the engine standing for over a year.

before i started it i turned it over on the key for a little bit to hopefully get the oil moving. once it started i let it run on idle for 5 mins so i could check water levels, charger oil level etc
the noise was quite bad but as the minutes passed the tapping got quiter which i'm assuming is the lifters filling up with oil. how ever it seems like 1 or maybe 2 arent filling up with oil. any ideas what i could do to solve this? or maybe i'm looking in the wrong direction?

any help would be great. thanks

Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 05:43

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Did you have the head off the car? maybe you have bent a valve slightly? as it doesnt take much, im guessing this was the case with mine as ive had the head on and off a few times and i know the head was off before i got the car i think this is when it happened.

My car was a tapper before i charged it and its tapped away since, im planning on getting a recon head from mech repairs eventually.

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Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 06:56

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Best get it sorted... look what happened to my tapping engine Guns

i had a standard engine and this happened, i have no idea how long it had been like that bit just goes to show what can happen and you have to think of how much more pressure your putting on your engine with a supercharger

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Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 09:07

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Are you able to get a video up?

Have you had the cambelt off since it was last running?

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Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 10:06

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mines been a tapper for 3or4 years

supercharged 2 years

i do keep a spare engine tho LOL

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Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 11:50

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nope havent had the head off or done the cambelt since it was last running and it was fine a year ago thats why i'm assuming its the lifters that are lacking oil because its been stood for so long.

i'll try and get a vid up later on.

russbez wrote:

mines been a tapper for 3or4 years

supercharged 2 years

i do keep a spare engine tho LOL

i do have a spare engine as well LOL

Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 13:41

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every gti6 owner has a spare engine regardless don't they? it's the done thing LOL

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Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 14:03

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Is it a realy loud tap ?

If it isnt that bad, and you havent had the belt off then it might well be the lifters, take the cam covers off and add a bit of oil all over, it should clear after 10-15min.

i thought i had the same problem when i rebuilt my sc engine, but it turned out it was a bent valve or two, and it made one hell of a noise, it honestly sounded like a diesel tranny van engine, it was that bad LOL

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Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 14:17

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heres a video i made earlier. sound really bad in it

Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 22:45

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ummm houston we have a problem. you sure its top end??

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Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 22:50

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pretty sure its top end. as i said it was fine before i took the inlet manifold off and fitted the charger?

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Your spark plugs tight?

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Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 23:20

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smegal wrote:

Your spark plugs tight?

thats one thing that did cross my mind earlier. will check them out

Posted 3rd Dec 2010 at 23:27

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205gti6_ro wrote:

pretty sure its top end. as i said it was fine before i took the inlet manifold off and fitted the charger?

you could have dropped something in a inlet by acident
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rikky wrote:

every gti6 owner has a spare engine regardless don't they? it's the done thing LOL

I had two at one stage, taking a chance now though as I have only one now,

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Posted 4th Dec 2010 at 01:24

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dont think so. as soon as i took the inlet mani off i blocked the ports with rags and when i fitted the new inlet i blew all the dust and crap away.

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205gti6_ro wrote:

pretty sure its top end. as i said it was fine before i took the inlet manifold off and fitted the charger?

you could have dropped something in a inlet by acident
and cause top end damage.

Posted 4th Dec 2010 at 05:35

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Give it a bit longer running. I have a feeling it may just be the lifters. They can take quite a while to fully fill again if the engine has been standing for a long time.

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Posted 4th Dec 2010 at 05:43

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Agreed. If it hasn't cleared after 15 minutes of driving, you do have a problem.

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Posted 4th Dec 2010 at 13:51

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yeh think i'll change the oil for thinnner stuff as well just for a few runs out.

Posted 4th Dec 2010 at 13:56

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Video sound can be misleading sometimes but that doesn't sound like the tapper I've heard in the flesh.
Are you certain it's the top end? It sounds a bit too heavy to me - if you know what I mean LOL

I hope I'm completely wrong for your sake Smile

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If it ran fine with no noise before you took it off the road, and you haven't had the head off/cambelt touched, I would say 100% it's your lifters. Yes

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Posted 4th Dec 2010 at 14:46

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yeh thats what i'm hoping. thinking about changing the oil for thinnner stuff for a little bit while i run the charger in as well. any suggestions what grade to use? or should i not bother?

Posted 6th Dec 2010 at 01:40

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