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Official diagnosis: Carpocondria - The persistent conviction that one's motor vehicle is or is likely to become ill
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Author | Subject: no torque |
robbo21
Newbie Location: Kendal Registered: 02 Oct 2010 Posts: 48 Status: Offline |
Post #1
hi folk, i recently had my centre silencer and cat remove on a ph 2 gti 6, so all that remains after the manifold is the rear silencer. Since then the car feels really down on torque. There is a whistling noise when accelerating and a strong smell of petrol after i've ran it, yet the exhaust isn't blowing anywhere. Basically i'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem after doing the same mod or if i should just invest in a new backbox and hope that fixes it! It also uses considerably more fuel now but the lambda sensor has been left in the system. Any help or advice greatly appreciated guys cheers________________________________________ Official diagnosis: Carpocondria - The persistent conviction that one's motor vehicle is or is likely to become ill |
Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 23:53
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #2
a decat will make a car feel flat and will loose its 4.5k kick.i had this when i took off the standard exhaust on my 106 gti and fitted a full pugsport. you ideally need a middle box imo ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 23:56
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robbo21
Newbie Location: Kendal Registered: 02 Oct 2010 Posts: 48 Status: Offline |
Post #3
oh right, i was working on the premise that losing the cat and centre box would free up the gases and the rear silencer would keep the back pressure. Seems the best bet is to put them back in then?________________________________________ Official diagnosis: Carpocondria - The persistent conviction that one's motor vehicle is or is likely to become ill |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 00:09
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monkgti
Regular Location: New Ross Registered: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 343 Status: Offline |
Post #4
since fitting my decat ive noticed a little less torque but only really low in the rev range like say if im on a hill in 6th at about 2,000rpm and press the acc the car feels to labour a bit (shudder) where it never did before it just picked up but apart from that i dont notice any less torque, so id say with the cat and middle box gone its definitly gonna be more noticible.. is it just down very low you notice it or all through the rev range?________________________________________ IF YOU CAN READ THIS IM STILL IN 5TH!!! |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 00:14
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #5
i found that there is a slight increase in power up top though but reduced in the middle..________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 00:16
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robbo21
Newbie Location: Kendal Registered: 02 Oct 2010 Posts: 48 Status: Offline |
Post #6
this is right through the rev range. There's no 4k kick and it bogs down setting off, it just doesn't pull at all. The revs rise as quickly as before but it feels sluggish. I've replaced every sensor under the bonnet and it's had a full service done by me last month and this problem happened as soon as the de-cat was done, but my worry is that i can't see a knackered back box causing it to be so considerably slower than before. It really struggles up hills now. I'm constantly having to change down to second to be able to increase speed up even gentle slopes :-(________________________________________ Official diagnosis: Carpocondria - The persistent conviction that one's motor vehicle is or is likely to become ill |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 00:29
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #7
thats because theres no back pressure.________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 00:46
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monkgti
Regular Location: New Ross Registered: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 343 Status: Offline |
Post #8
are you sure theres nothing else wrong? having to drop to 2nd on a hill to accelerate is a bit extreme for just having no cat and silencer, its hardly a fuel pump problem or anything is it? whats it like on a flat or even a downhill?________________________________________ IF YOU CAN READ THIS IM STILL IN 5TH!!! |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 02:03
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robbo21
Newbie Location: Kendal Registered: 02 Oct 2010 Posts: 48 Status: Offline |
Post #9
on the flat it pulls but it's very ordinary. I have tested the fuel pump in the past and it was fine, and as i said i've replaced all under bonnet sensors, as well as all 4 coil packs. I see your point that it is very extreme for this to occur as a result of removing those parts, but even the lambda probe is new. I'm running out of ideas :-( ________________________________________ Official diagnosis: Carpocondria - The persistent conviction that one's motor vehicle is or is likely to become ill |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 02:10
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monkgti
Regular Location: New Ross Registered: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 343 Status: Offline |
Post #10
have you had the timing done recently, i wonder would the timing be off a bit??________________________________________ IF YOU CAN READ THIS IM STILL IN 5TH!!! |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 02:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #11
I'd suggest checking the timing and sacking off the "exhaust" for a standard or Pugsport magnex item.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 02:24
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #12
as said earlier, Loss of back pressure. what was it like before playing with exhaust? |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 02:25
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robbo21
Newbie Location: Kendal Registered: 02 Oct 2010 Posts: 48 Status: Offline |
Post #13
thanks. The timing belt was done by an independent place just before i bought the car so will try get that checked tomoz. And will put the silencer back in and see what happens then, cheers for all the advice guys________________________________________ Official diagnosis: Carpocondria - The persistent conviction that one's motor vehicle is or is likely to become ill |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 02:27
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robbo21
Newbie Location: Kendal Registered: 02 Oct 2010 Posts: 48 Status: Offline |
Post #14
and welshpug, unless removing the exhaust has enhanced any underlying problems from beforehand, the car seemed fine before the exhaust came off. Which i assumed would suggest it wasn't timing but i guess it's definitely worth checking________________________________________ Official diagnosis: Carpocondria - The persistent conviction that one's motor vehicle is or is likely to become ill |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 02:30
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Mid range torque is more useful then top end power in most everyday driving. I found a decat killed the torque in mine too.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 02:34
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tbag
Junior User Location: on your case Registered: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 89 Status: Offline |
Post #16
iv just changed mine back to the standard 6 exhaust. my mongoose had a small hole in it (tiny pinhole) just before the centre section witch caused it to be pretty flat through the revs. i changed it back and its running sweet as a nut again . try changing it back and if this problem still occurs .... then worry ? lol________________________________________ If in doubt, flat outColin McRae 1968-2007 xbox : R700N3Y |
Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 02:37
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