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Author Subject: engine flat spotting
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Post #1
ok so when starting the car from cold i pull away in first gear and as i put my foot down there is no power or acceleration nothing happens then after a few seconds things go back to normal it only happens when starting from cold and in like first and second

any ideas what it could be
Posted 7th Aug 2010 at 20:50
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I'm getting exactly the same thing mate, been fine until recently, then just started doing it.

I suspected coil packs at first, so bought 4 brand new ones (done 108,000, so was prob due a change anyway) but that didn't solve it. Spark plugs are brand new (NGK Irridiums).

My next route will be either the Lambda Sensor, because this can cause simular symptoms + the car will drink like a fish, which mine seems to be doing or the Map sensor.

I was worried that it might be early stages of a head gasket failure, but I done a compression test on it & all was good, but the only real test would be to do a Leak Down Test, but I'm confident that its not that.

I have been given a TPS to try, but I don't think it is that either, because it would do it all the time, not just when it's cold.

My betting is that it is the Lambda, but if I solve the problem before you, then I'll be sure to let you know & vice versa would be appreciated please mate Wink
Posted 7th Aug 2010 at 23:06
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yer sure thing make thanks for the update on ur problem and i will let you no as soon as i have solved it my end i think im going to be having it put on a diagnostic machine towards the end of the week so that will read all the sensors so hopefully its not something major expensive and we can both fix it very soon
Posted 7th Aug 2010 at 23:20
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if it doers it straight from cold it wont be the lambda.

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Posted 7th Aug 2010 at 23:22
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usually does it about 2 junctions from my house first thing in the morning
Posted 7th Aug 2010 at 23:32
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welshpug! wrote:
if it doers it straight from cold it wont be the lambda.


Really?? Why's that then mate??

I thought the Lambda was working 24/7 to monitor the air/fuel ratio??

Whats your thoughts on the problem then mate, are you able to shed any light on this for me & Foot??
Posted 7th Aug 2010 at 23:56
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Most likely to be TPS or possibly a sticky idle valve.

the Lambda only works when it has warmed up, until then the ecu disregards the reading from it, what temperature that is I'm not sure though.

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Posted 8th Aug 2010 at 00:01
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ok so my car has now starting hunting on idle and on acceleration there is a very very high pitched whistle any helpful ideas ???
Posted 11th Aug 2010 at 22:57
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TPSYes

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Posted 11th Aug 2010 at 23:22
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cheers ill get one sorted asap
Posted 11th Aug 2010 at 23:29
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but check for vac leak... re tighten inlet manny.. and check your airbox..

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Posted 11th Aug 2010 at 23:39
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I take it the air box is the one under the inlet mani and I'll do both cheers
Posted 12th Aug 2010 at 00:04
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ok checked both and they both seemed all ok although the hunting idle has now seemed to turn into a very lumpy idle ???
Posted 12th Aug 2010 at 01:38
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ok so i have now changed Inlet manifold and Throttle body different TPS and Map Sensor cleaned the ICV and still the problem carries on

Any other ideas?
Posted 18th Aug 2010 at 00:53
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have you actually checked if the sensors work?

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Posted 18th Aug 2010 at 01:22
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How could I test them all?
Posted 18th Aug 2010 at 02:43
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seems like one for a mechanic...Yes

but in all honesty... you should either get sensors checked on a live data stream with a diagnostics kit or get a multimeter out and check the resistance/voltages etc

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Posted 18th Aug 2010 at 04:18
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Cracked resonator (black box underneath inlet manifold)?

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Posted 18th Aug 2010 at 04:24
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rear the FAQ!!!!

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Posted 18th Aug 2010 at 04:32
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I've had the faults read on the car and came
Out with map sensor so changed it and I'm going
To read the faults again now and I think I will take the resonator out and swap it for the blanking plate I had on a while ago although heard bad things about them.
Posted 18th Aug 2010 at 15:43
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Nah the resonators are fine if they aren't cracked.

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Posted 18th Aug 2010 at 15:53
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When did you last have the cam belt changed might have slipped half a tooth.

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Posted 18th Aug 2010 at 17:39
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I was talking about the metal resonator blanks being bad and the belt was last changed about 15k ago would that effect only when cold then would of thought that would be no matter the engine temp??
Posted 18th Aug 2010 at 18:01
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mine does a similar thing when cold, feels a bit like it's running out of petrol (ps, it's not running out of petrol) but the problem goes away after a real short bit of driving and it's fine after that. but in a morning or after it's been left for a while it's shite.

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Posted 20th Aug 2010 at 02:33
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yer exactly the same problem here mate im going to change all the coil packs 1 by 1 starting tomorrow and start with a new set of plugs see if that solves the problem im also getting all the faults read to see if there are any new ones ill keep this up to date with my progress as to what happens also think im going to remove the resonator for a blanking plate to eliminate that as well.
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