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lwgti-6

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Wondering if anyone could shed any light onto this rather dangerous problem my car has "developed"

Had this problem for a while now, basically when going around a sharp corner at speed, turning in pretty hard the car lunges to each side as if its being pulled to the direction the cars turning. Very very dangerous and only happens at speed. I've lost all confidence driving at speed around corners and i tense up when doing so. But i cant work out what it is for the life of me.

The only way i can describe it is to imagine the the subframe mounts are springs.

Any ideas?

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Posted 15th May 2010 at 21:26
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welshpug!

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p bushes, lower balljoints, TRE's, Top mount rubbers or bearings, long shot at inner track rod joints.

possibly rear beam mountings or beam bearings.

wheel bearings can cause things like this too.

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Posted 15th May 2010 at 21:42
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duncs

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mine done this!
check your hubs where the ball joints fit my hub had ovalised and caused the car to do what your describing.when the hub wears it allows the ball joint to float around especially when cornering hard.
and your right you do loose confidence in the car and its a well dodgy when your half way round a corner and the feeling just suddenly snaps.
Posted 15th May 2010 at 22:42
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lotek

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90% sure its one of the balljoints fella Yes
Posted 15th May 2010 at 22:51
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lwgti-6

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duncs wrote:
mine done this!
check your hubs where the ball joints fit my hub had ovalised and caused the car to do what your describing.when the hub wears it allows the ball joint to float around especially when cornering hard.
and your right you do loose confidence in the car and its a well dodgy when your half way round a corner and the feeling just suddenly snaps.


Yes, that is EXACTLY what i'm getting...NEarly thrown me into a ditch earlier...

Did you replace the hubs?

Cheers lotek & welsh pug

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Posted 15th May 2010 at 23:46
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paul_13

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Sounds like P bushe, my dturbo keeps trying to kill me like you said Smile

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Posted 16th May 2010 at 03:33
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lotek

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its the balljoints .
Posted 16th May 2010 at 05:39
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duncs

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replaced the worn hub and ball joint on one side,
its back to normal now Cool
Posted 16th May 2010 at 19:07
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cwspellowe

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+1 from me for balljoint or hub, had exactly the same problem but only when turning left, was the O/S hub had ovalled

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Posted 16th May 2010 at 22:08
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lwgti-6

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thanks for the replies chaps, hope it passes the mot next week, getting fedup of all the little nigglies now..

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Posted 16th May 2010 at 23:17
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birk

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i have the same issue, will check the hub and balljoint, see if thats the problem.

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Posted 17th May 2010 at 00:05
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lwgti-6

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Anyone know the best palce to get decent ball joints and P bushes?

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Posted 17th May 2010 at 01:28
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cwspellowe

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Rich W for bushes iirc, and Pug for balljoints Smile

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Posted 17th May 2010 at 01:33
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pugheaven

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balljoints from pug and p-bush's from rich w!
Posted 17th May 2010 at 01:35
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kraig

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Post #15
this has started to happen to me aswel
since i fitted my new wheels really cant understand why its happened all of a sudden
but is stupidly scary all is well going into a corner then it snaps such a weired feeling Sad

any ideas what the part number is for ball joints guys?

also the price?

thanks

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Posted 19th May 2010 at 04:35
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pete26

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This is happening to me also but I believe its due my powersteering leak, only does it on right hand bends. And snaps Sharply with also has worn down my left tyre more than the right one. But could also be ball joints

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Posted 20th May 2010 at 04:35
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kraig

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Post #17
it was the ball joint on mine was totally fooked
jacked the car up and you could move the wheel side to side weasily with your hands

got 1 for 29 squids Smile

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Posted 23rd May 2010 at 16:43
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