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hi how easy is it to fit a turbo to my gti6 cause dont have the money for a superchargeris there many mauals on doing the conversion
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 scoobyai
Newbie  Location: shildon Registered: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 25 Status: Offline |
is there many mauals on doing the conversion |
 Posted 20th Apr 2010 at 19:37
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Turbocharging is still quite expensive and a lot more involved kit is for sale here ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 20th Apr 2010 at 20:17
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dannyb1
Regular Location: Midlands Registered: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 178 Status: Offline |
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In kit form its expensive but realistically a welder is £150 , a turbo is £50 , an oil drain and feed tapped in to the block and sump is free, or go from a pressure switch and some hard piping + intercooler will cost you about £150. Just depends how good you are at welding  ________________________________________ You want tact ? Call a tactician !Xbox 360 : Cableguy1984 |
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Posted 20th Apr 2010 at 20:24
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
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TIG welder cost 150 ?________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 20th Apr 2010 at 23:08
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dannyb1
Regular Location: Midlands Registered: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 178 Status: Offline |
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Since when did you need to TIG weld stainless steel ? Granted its neater but MIG is fine for a DIY job on a budget with a good shielding technque.________________________________________ You want tact ? Call a tactician !Xbox 360 : Cableguy1984 |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 16:58
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anth
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
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dannyb1 wrote: In kit form its expensive but realistically a welder is
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 17:06
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
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make your own manifold, be better of just paying a grand for 1 tho________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 17:30
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dannyb1
Regular Location: Midlands Registered: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 178 Status: Offline |
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anth wrote: dannyb1 wrote: In kit form its expensive but realistically a welder is £150 , a turbo is £50 , an oil drain and feed tapped in to the block and sump is free, or go from a pressure switch and some hard piping + intercooler will cost you about £150. Just depends how good you are at welding What about a manifold? Use the stock one for the branches, cut it down / bend it and weld a flange on for the turbo. Its not a 5 minute job , but i rekon it could all be done for around £500 if your handy with a welder or ya mate is. ________________________________________ You want tact ? Call a tactician !Xbox 360 : Cableguy1984 |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 17:41
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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chrisd306 wrote: make your own manifold, be better of just paying a grand for 1 tho I would do it this way. Not completely clued up on all of this, but I'm pretty sure its high priced for a reason. Mission to weld something like that, and I bet DP spent a fair bit of time designing that, correct header lenghts etc  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 18:02
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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Have a look in the projects section for an example of modifying a standard mani. Not how I would do it but it works if you're on a budget.________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 18:05
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
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dannyb1 wrote: Since when did you need to TIG weld stainless steel ? Granted its neater but MIG is fine for a DIY job on a budget with a good shielding technque. it's not just neater, more important it's the penetration. weld quality rated by the ratio of width to depth of the weld , TIG is superior then MIG by this rating and only inferior to the exotic plasma, laser and electron ray welding . ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 20:04
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dannyb1
Regular Location: Midlands Registered: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 178 Status: Offline |
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oldbrownshoe wrote: dannyb1 wrote: Since when did you need to TIG weld stainless steel ? Granted its neater but MIG is fine for a DIY job on a budget with a good shielding technque. it's not just neater, more important it's the penetration. weld quality rated by the ratio of width to depth of the weld , TIG is superior then MIG by this rating and only inferior to the exotic plasma, laser and electron ray welding . Agreed, and none of which is needed for a 15 year old peugeots manifold diy turbo project. This isnt the space ship enterprise. Mig welding penetrates just fine on stainless tubing this thick. I can only think of one exhaust place that makes exhaust with a TIG welder, 99% are MIG. ________________________________________ You want tact ? Call a tactician !Xbox 360 : Cableguy1984 |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 20:26
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gtomi-6
Seasoned Pro  Location: southampton Registered: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,136 Status: Offline |
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that turbo kits is expensive, but its comes with nothing. you need bost pipes a forged engine. then if your doing it properly. head work and cams then an ecu its gets very costly. even more than a charger. ________________________________________ ph3 gti-6 china blue- mint conditionph2 gti-6 nile blue K.I.A dec 2010 |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 20:49
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dannyb1
Regular Location: Midlands Registered: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 178 Status: Offline |
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gtomi-6 wrote: that turbo kits is expensive, but its comes with nothing. you need bost pipes a forged engine. then if your doing it properly. head work and cams then an ecu its gets very costly. even more than a charger. Could be argued that you need all that for the SC route too , or infact dont need it all for a turbo. Both forced induction , both will be better all rounders with cams , aftermarket management and some flowing. A good reliable 215bhp has to go be achievable on a low blow though ? ________________________________________ You want tact ? Call a tactician !Xbox 360 : Cableguy1984 |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 20:57
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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dannyb1 wrote: gtomi-6 wrote: that turbo kits is expensive, but its comes with nothing. you need bost pipes a forged engine. then if your doing it properly. head work and cams then an ecu its gets very costly. even more than a charger. Could be argued that you need all that for the SC route too , or infact dont need it all for a turbo. Both forced induction , both will be better all rounders with cams , aftermarket management and some flowing. A good reliable 215bhp has to go be achievable on a low blow though ? Easily. Mine is making 230bhp on 7psi. I'm expecting more (closer to 250-260) once I have the funds to have the timing adjusted on a rolling road and maybe a free-er flowing exhaust. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 21:46
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gtomi-6
Seasoned Pro Location: southampton Registered: 16 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,136 Status: Offline |
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YesI agree you need the same for sc but if it is goin to be done properly you will spend silly money you save money on the sc without havin to get a stand alone managemen .fooling the stock ecu with non accurate figures like u boys with chargers are doing you wouldn't be able to do with a turbo ________________________________________ ph3 gti-6 china blue- mint conditionph2 gti-6 nile blue K.I.A dec 2010 |
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Posted 21st Apr 2010 at 23:46
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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gtomi-6 wrote: Yes I agree you need the same for sc but if it is goin to be done properly you will spend silly money you save money on the sc without havin to get a stand alone managemen .fooling the stock ecu with non accurate figures like u boys with chargers are doing you wouldn't be able to do with a turbo Eh? The standard ECU is being remapped for the low boost s/c conversion from Lynx so there is no difference in that respect to having aftermarket management. The only thing you couldn't do with the turbo is control the boost with it (the s/c uses a restrictor ring), but thats not hard to overcome. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 22nd Apr 2010 at 00:23
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
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dannyb1 wrote: oldbrownshoe wrote: dannyb1 wrote: Since when did you need to TIG weld stainless steel ? Granted its neater but MIG is fine for a DIY job on a budget with a good shielding technque. it's not just neater, more important it's the penetration. weld quality rated by the ratio of width to depth of the weld , TIG is superior then MIG by this rating and only inferior to the exotic plasma, laser and electron ray welding . Agreed, and none of which is needed for a 15 year old peugeots manifold diy turbo project. This isnt the space ship enterprise. Mig welding penetrates just fine on stainless tubing this thick. I can only think of one exhaust place that makes exhaust with a TIG welder, 99% are MIG. if you brought it up ,then you might be surprise to find out that some after market companies ( HKS & others ) uses laser welder in mufflers and other exhaust components, the enterprise is vintage space ship joints by brazing . ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
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Posted 22nd Apr 2010 at 01:11
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dannyb1
Regular Location: Midlands Registered: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 178 Status: Offline |
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Were stretching the goalposts a bit now though arent we, fact of the matter us a MIG welder a bloke who knows how to use it does = cheap turbo manifold and downpipe  ________________________________________ You want tact ? Call a tactician !Xbox 360 : Cableguy1984 |
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Posted 22nd Apr 2010 at 02:47
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #20
if 5 people would want a manifold and down pipe i could get them made in stainless steel by a decent exhaust place for around the 800 mark, equal length so no high temp and no funny exhaust pulse due to un equal lengths. |
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Posted 22nd Apr 2010 at 12:52
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #21
i would say worst case 5k for a decent turbo conversion using new parts etc________________________________________ |
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