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 jamie192
Regular  Location: ryde Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #1
hello,I have brought an engine and while taking it to bits i have noticed rather than individual coil packs as on my other engine this one has a coil pack unit, its all one thing with one plug on the end. Any ideas why? cant seem to find another engine like this so bit confused? Any light would be great thanks  Jamie |
 Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 19:17
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cooper666
Senior User  Location: doncaster Registered: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #2
xsi with gti6 manifolds  get a picture up ________________________________________ clio r27ps3 id:cooperkloe |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 19:33
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jamie192
Regular Location: ryde Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #3
its got 16V on the rocker cover. it does not have any manifolds on it. what ways can i tell what engine it is? any written codes on the engine? |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 19:32
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cooper666
Senior User Location: doncaster Registered: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #4
i belive the gti6 head has rs marking near thermostat housing sort of tig welded writing ________________________________________ clio r27ps3 id:cooperkloe |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 19:33
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jamie192
Regular Location: ryde Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #5
well i have the engine out and literally just block and head, any other tale tale signs? it does have RS tig welded just the right side of the thermostat |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 19:40
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cooper666
Senior User Location: doncaster Registered: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #6
might have had stand alone management in the past im sure some require single coil pack but dont quote me on that________________________________________ clio r27ps3 id:cooperkloe |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 19:43
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jamie192
Regular Location: ryde Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #7
phew thanks for your help, does any 1 else know any 100% ways of telling? are the blocks different from gti to xsi or it it just the head? it all looks like for like but i want to make sure before it fit it and its a poopy xsi engine!Thanks again |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 19:46
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cooper666
Senior User Location: doncaster Registered: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 20:05
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Has the head got the mountings to mount separate coil packs or not??Also, does it have the cam sensor or the hole to fit it in?? Stan. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 20:05
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Also look for a cut out on the rear of the head for the vacuum pump.Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 20:31
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jamie192
Regular Location: ryde Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #11
yes cooper that is the coil. yes the head does have the mountings for the seperate coil packs.Where would i find this cam sensor, is it the blue one to the left hand side by the pullys? Does the xsi not have the vacuum pump? Ill have a look an am trying to load up pictures. |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 20:50
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jamie192
Regular Location: ryde Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #12
       There is a vacuum pump on it and i am pretty sure the cam sensor with the blue socket u can see just by the bit of rope if thats correct? Some pictures Thanks again |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 21:19
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cooper666
Senior User Location: doncaster Registered: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #13
has someone cut/broken of some of the seprate coil mounting points. because there should be 8  ________________________________________ clio r27ps3 id:cooperkloe |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 21:29
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jamie192
Regular Location: ryde Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #14
ahh sigh.. they have been cut off probably to make room for this other coil pack. great how am i ment to put a coil pack on now? |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 22:00
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cooper666
Senior User Location: doncaster Registered: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
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jamie192 wrote: ahh sigh.. they have been cut off probably to make room for this other coil pack. great how am i ment to put a coil pack on now? the lugs are not on the head there on the cam carriers/bearing caps you will have to swop them from your old engine ________________________________________ clio r27ps3 id:cooperkloe |
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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 22:07
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xsisid
Newbie Location: lincoln Registered: 22 Jan 2010 Posts: 49 Status: Offline |
Post #16
is the block a cast iron block? I think the 6 has an all alloy engine. the one you have looks like an early 306 xsi/406 engine. i could be wrong mate. |
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Posted 6th Apr 2010 at 00:24
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cooper666
Senior User Location: doncaster Registered: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #17
6 is a cast block mate________________________________________ clio r27ps3 id:cooperkloe |
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Posted 6th Apr 2010 at 00:29
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scoty18
Regular  Location: aberdeen Registered: 13 Apr 2009 Posts: 233 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Someone probably bought the engine and tried to fit it to the xsi and found they couldn't plug the individual coil packs in to there loom so modified the carriers to house the coil pack rail. You might find some other issues with the engine when you try to fit it. Does it turn over ok?________________________________________ |
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Posted 6th Apr 2010 at 00:36
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jamie192
Regular Location: ryde Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #19
So are we thinking this is a 6 or a xsi engine  |
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Posted 6th Apr 2010 at 01:21
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cooper666
Senior User Location: doncaster Registered: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
Post #20
id say 6 that somebodys bodged________________________________________ clio r27ps3 id:cooperkloe |
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Posted 6th Apr 2010 at 01:43
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xsisid
Newbie Location: lincoln Registered: 22 Jan 2010 Posts: 49 Status: Offline |
Post #21
must be a 6 engine mate, there are 3 sensors on the thermostat housing and the xsi only has 2. and yours also has an oil cooler, pretty sure the xsi doesnt have that either. |
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Posted 6th Apr 2010 at 01:56
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jamie192
Regular Location: ryde Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #22
but a 6 lol thats the main bit, by the sounds of things when i spoke to the person i got it off he has taken the inlet manifold off because it was throttle bodies or something, he left the rest on! ill be posting up info of the place i got it from though so you can all avoid, it was from a front end smash 97 gti 6 in scotland, looks like its been sat a while with the rust and stuff siezed. apparently the engine has only done 65000 which is why they would not just sell the head. i also got a rear beam from them which looks like its been dragged round the scrap yard. |
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Posted 6th Apr 2010 at 01:58
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #23
That is a '6' engine mate.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 6th Apr 2010 at 02:45
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mrp
Regular Location: Northampton Registered: 30 May 2007 Posts: 114 Status: Offline |
Post #24
If your seperating the block and head youll be able to tell if its a gti6 block or an xsi by what pistons are in it as there different, as for the coil pack I have the all in one unit on my gti6 because I have throttle bodies and aftermarket ecu but I did NOT have to cut anything off to fit the coilpack god damn cowboys!!!! |
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Posted 6th Apr 2010 at 04:09
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jamie192
Regular Location: ryde Registered: 14 May 2008 Posts: 180 Status: Offline |
Post #25
merr to the cowboys |
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Posted 8th Apr 2010 at 00:16
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