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spencer

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Post #1
Afternoon,

I've been having some issues starting around a week ago where when i start the car, it would cut straight out, and would take a couple of times before it would start without this and then it would be fine.

It then started getting progressivly worse until the point on Thursday where it would do the old trick of cutting out when ever the clutch was dipped unless i kept the revs up.

I've cleaned the ICV with some WD40 and replaced the breather filter as it was looking a bit worse for wear.

Searching on here, a few mentions of MAP sensor get thrown in, but mines not having a hunting issue. Am i just resigned to the fact that the ICV is shot?

And if so, does

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Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 22:25
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stu

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I paid less than that from Euro Car Parts for a genuine Magneti Marelli one.

I'll see if I can find the part number.
Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 22:29
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spencer

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Cheers, I just looked on ECP and they didnt bring anything back.

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Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 22:32
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stu

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I think it may have been GSF I got it from in the end.

The GSF part number listed on their site is - 185PC0100 and it costs
Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 22:37
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spencer

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Cool, yeah that looks about right. Cheers Stu Smile

Can anyone else shed any info on what else might cause this?

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Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 22:54
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mechanical_repairs

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It will more than likely be the idle control valve, did you do all I said earlier andits made no change?

Carl

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Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 23:08
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mine was doing this and i replaced the map sensor and it was fine again Smile
Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 23:09
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spencer

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mechanical_repairs wrote:
It will more than likely be the idle control valve, did you do all I said earlier andits made no change?

Carl


Yep, took it off, cleaned the housing and the probe (albeit with WD40 as thats all i have and other posts on here say that should work fine) but still no better, it struggles to start - i have to give it some throttle to get it fired up - and if i let the throttle go it just cuts straight out.

People on my street must be thinking im really p*ssed off or something as i have to give it some revs so i have enough time to pull away and change gear LOL

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Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 23:15
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See here mate. Map Sensor sorted mine

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Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 01:10
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spencer

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Hmmm, ok cheers bud. Any idea on cost? Will check gsf later on..

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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 00:13
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spencer wrote:
Hmmm, ok cheers bud. Any idea on cost? Will check gsf later on..


I paid £20 2nd hand.

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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 03:36
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spencer

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AH HA!

Ok, so i went out just now to see if i could clean the MAP sensor, upluged it, not much to clean up so wiped it and put it back in. Also done an ECU reset.

Started it backup after reconnecting the battery and still the same. Balls.

Anyhow, i sit there for a min thinking if i can try anything else and then it comes in to my mind, its cutting out as the rev's are dropping to low. So why not see if moving the pin on the throttle cable will help? Move it up one notch and bang, it starts and sits happily on idle (albeit at 1250rpm!)

Let it warm up as per ECU reset and take it for a blast - HOLY FAP, that extra notch on the throttle cable certinatly makes it seem more responsive on the off!

It's back to working fine again now, however if i move the pin back down to the next notch, it's cuts out as it struggles. Any guesses as to why? The TPS seems to be working, and it idles smoothly when set into the new position so im stummped Confused

At least i can drive it again now i suppose Big grin

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Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 20:30
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monsta g

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Post #13
could the throttle cable have stretched
Posted 10th Aug 2011 at 02:56
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