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Author Subject: Rough Starting & Autodiagnostics
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Post #1
Need some advice from the more mechanically-minded members please.

In short, my car was garaged for just over a year up until a month ago. Since then I've changed the oil, oil filter, gearbox oil, clutch cable and exhaust from the cat back. I've never really worked on my cars prior to this past month, so it's been a steep learning curve and quite fun, if a little frustrating.

However, every so often the 'Autodiagnostics' light comes on and the engine sounds a little rough/hesistant and the engine is reasonably warm. It also sounds slightly rough starting, but no warning light. The rough starting appears worse now with the new exhaust (which is a cheapo Online Automtive jobby).

Here's what I'm thinking:

- Autodiagnostics implies a problem with ignition system, so that tells me that it could be a coil pack on the way out, or spark plugs need changing or an injector playing up.

- Rough starting may be consistent with the above - could it be that it's starting on 3 cylinders? It doesn't particularly struggle to start, just when it catches, car shakes a little - does this sound like starting on 3 cylinders or a misfire? (Excuse my ignorance if this should be obvious...)

What I plan to do:
- Compression test the cylinders
- Test various sensors according to the FAQ with my shiny new multimeter
- Change the spark plugs

Any opinions/advice will be welcome.

Cheers Wink

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Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 15:21
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I should add that I did search before posting Razz

I've yet to do an ECU reset - that will be done today...

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Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 17:37
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There is an easy way to check if it's one of the Coil Packs on the way out.

With the engine running, unplug each of the coil packs one at a time. If you remove a plug and the engine starts to struggle then that coil pack is working correctly. if you unplug one and there is no change in engine behaviour then you can be pretty certain that the coil pack is on the way out or is no longer working.

If the above doesn't make sense then let me know and I'll try and explain things a bit better. Laugh

It's a free check and you've got nothing to lose by doing it, so you may as well give it a go. Thumbs up
Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 17:49
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^^^^

Makes sense thanks. I have also been warned about touching the electrics with the engine running, unless I'm keen on getting shocked! Crazy

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Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 19:16
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If you're not confident about doing it then I wouldn't try it.

TBH it's not that hard, you're not actually removing the Coil Pack, you are just unplugging the small plug on top of each of them.

You shouldn't have any problems with regards to getting an electric shock by doing the above, but as I say if you're not confident about doing it then I wouldn't risk it.
Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 19:23
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Since I was going to attempt to perform a compression test, I figured I may as well change the spark plugs as I wasn't sure when these were last done to be honest. Here's the condition of the ones that came out:



Does this look average or bad? Unsure

And the new, shiny NGK Iridium ones Cool



Feels smoother now, particularly when I abruptly lift of the throttle. Still a bit rough on starting, though I'm beginning to suspect that this is more to do with the exhaust that I fitted recently - I think I'll have to redo that one... Whistle Oh and since it appeared to be fiddly to get the compression tester in without cross-threading the spark plug threads, I opted to skip that...

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