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alexrosner90
Regular Location: Canterbury Registered: 19 Mar 2009 Posts: 105 Status: Offline |
Post #1
just wanted to know what would be the best thing to do iv got a gti6 Engine thats done over 120.000 MILES and is showing it. Should i re bild it or look for a new one with less MILES what do you people think? thanks. |
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cress87
Seasoned Pro Location: Norwich Registered: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 11,360 Status: Offline |
Post #2
120 miles really isn't very much you know...________________________________________ ![]() You feed beefburgers to swans. ![]() I may have been speeding Mr Policeman but [a] I live for the 306 and [b] did you see that dog? omfg |
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alexrosner90
Regular Location: Canterbury Registered: 19 Mar 2009 Posts: 105 Status: Offline |
Post #3
yeah its not a lot but just thinking what to do ? |
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allesclar
Seasoned Pro Location: Sheffield Registered: 17 May 2009 Posts: 4,254 Status: Offline |
Post #4
personally its down to how much you love your car and how long you intend to keep it. For me a full rebuild is something i would do over an engine transplant. ________________________________________ Team allesclar ® |
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alexrosner90
Regular Location: Canterbury Registered: 19 Mar 2009 Posts: 105 Status: Offline |
Post #5
yeah i think a rebuild is the best way to go |
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anthony
Regular Location: Swindon Registered: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 108 Status: Offline |
Post #6
120k miles in itself isn't an issue, providing that the engine has been treated well and regularly serviced. Hell, Miles on here has one with twice that mileage and it's still putting out over book power figures!The problems come when they're neglected, and in my experience the iron block XU engines suffer significant bore wear if oil changes are missed, which throws a bit of a spanner in the works for any planned rebuild - there's little rebuilding into a worn block, and in my experience, many too worn to be rebuilt properly. You're then either left with getting oversized pistons and reboring the block - which is expensive - or trying to find a good block with minimal wear, which is becoming ever harder. Also, don't under-estimate the costs of fully rebuilding an engine, as rebuild parts for Peugeot XU's are pretty expensive - even assuming the block is serviceable, you're still talking the best part of a grand in parts and machining costs (and that's assuming you can do the strip and rebuild yourself, as labour costs are significant for engine builds) Personally, my opinion is that there are still enough good GTi-6 engines that they don't yet warrant the cost of a full rebuild unless you're planning on keeping it a long time or you've got to strip it down to change/uprate the spec. Change the cambelt/tensioners/waterpump as a matter of course on any replacement engine, and I'd look at doing the big-end shells too, and then use it - providing its otherwise good with decent compression etc. You don't say what's actually wrong with your existing engine other than the mileage? A compression test would certainly be a good starting point for establishing whether the engine needs replacing/rebuilding or not. ________________________________________ 1989 Eunos Roadster // 1992 Peugeot 205 GTi-S 1.9 // 1999 Peugeot 306 HDi Meridian |
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dangerous dave
Seasoned Pro Location: Bedford Registered: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9,890 Status: Offline |
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anthony wrote: 120k miles in itself isn't an issue, providing that the engine has been treated well and regularly serviced. Hell, Miles on here has one with twice that mileage and it's still putting out over book power figures! The problems come when they're neglected, and in my experience the iron block XU engines suffer significant bore wear if oil changes are missed, which throws a bit of a spanner in the works for any planned rebuild - there's little rebuilding into a worn block, and in my experience, many too worn to be rebuilt properly. You're then either left with getting oversized pistons and reboring the block - which is expensive - or trying to find a good block with minimal wear, which is becoming ever harder. Also, don't under-estimate the costs of fully rebuilding an engine, as rebuild parts for Peugeot XU's are pretty expensive - even assuming the block is serviceable, you're still talking the best part of a grand in parts and machining costs (and that's assuming you can do the strip and rebuild yourself, as labour costs are significant for engine builds) Personally, my opinion is that there are still enough good GTi-6 engines that they don't yet warrant the cost of a full rebuild unless you're planning on keeping it a long time or you've got to strip it down to change/uprate the spec. Change the cambelt/tensioners/waterpump as a matter of course on any replacement engine, and I'd look at doing the big-end shells too, and then use it - providing its otherwise good with decent compression etc. You don't say what's actually wrong with your existing engine other than the mileage? A compression test would certainly be a good starting point for establishing whether the engine needs replacing/rebuilding or not. Great first Chirstmas day post! ________________________________________ You didn't see anything. Right? |
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ballys16
Regular Location: Godollo Registered: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 247 Status: Offline |
Post #8
alexrosner90 wrote: just wanted to know what would be the best thing to do iv got a gti6 Engine thats done over 120.000 MILES and is showing it. Should i re bild it or look for a new one with less MILES what do you people think? thanks. Brand new block would be ~3000 pounds from Peugeot ________________________________________ XSi 8V -> S16 |
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alexrosner90
Regular Location: Canterbury Registered: 19 Mar 2009 Posts: 105 Status: Offline |
Post #9
thanks this has helped a lot just need to make my mind up now what to do as i have about 5k to spend on it and was thinking a rebuild was the a good way to start. |
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #10
if you do the work your self and the crank and bores are ok, a rebuild could work out pretty cheap.I would say well under a grand. |
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pogo21
Newbie Location: mazarron Registered: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 3 Status: Offline |
Post #11
i have done 210000 miles and still going strong,but i am thinking getting the engine reconditioned and really not that expensive and you do get a guarantee with it and its comes back like new,there are plenty engines out there but do you get all the story with buying? |
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jaydog81
Regular Location: york Registered: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 351 Status: Offline |
Post #12
alexrosner90 wrote: thanks this has helped a lot just need to make my mind up now what to do as i have about 5k to spend on it and was thinking a rebuild was the a good way to start Stick a low mileage block in and charge it. You might wana hang on to it then. Happy days ![]() ________________________________________ *jay81.Phase 2.5/S-99 Team i live for working,Paying bills and funding my hobbies. I wish my life could be just living for a pink "I love the 6 sticker". |
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-sinden-
Senior User Location: RAMSGATE, KENT Registered: 15 May 2009 Posts: 506 Status: Offline |
Post #13
jaydog81 wrote: Stick a low mileage block in and charge it. You might wana hang on to it then. Happy days ![]() x2, with 5k to spend get a genuin low milage, properly lookad after engine and go low boost ![]() ________________________________________ fixed my heaters and found out my aircon works |
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #14
cress87 wrote: 120 miles really isn't very much you know... ![]() how did noone else notice that? ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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