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 lingl9z
Regular  Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Okay so I've had the car a short while and noticed the coolant seem's to disapear after a while, now its not overheated at all, idles perfect and pulls as hard as these cars can with no misfire or problems at all - I've left the car till its gone cold, opened the filler cap and theres no pressure there - Any ideas people? I fear it'll be headgasket  |
 Posted 23rd Dec 2009 at 05:09
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rich-6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bottoming out! Registered: 06 May 2007 Posts: 5,306 Status: Offline |
Post #2
There shouldn't be pressure there anyway when its cold! Mine used to pretty much empty the rad tank itself through the overflow the level used to sit down in the last ¼ Never went wrong  ________________________________________  RIP Pete Sims |
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Posted 23rd Dec 2009 at 05:32
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #3
should i worry about it or drive it till it goes wrong then fix it? as i don't imagine its a cheap job on these cars? |
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Posted 23rd Dec 2009 at 14:31
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Heater matrix?Are you sure you are bleeding it out correctly? ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 23rd Dec 2009 at 15:28
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Hey, system's totally bleed out, used the tank (half an air tight bottle) and done the 3 screws untill water came out each, the heatings also super hot ! |
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Posted 23rd Dec 2009 at 22:35
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r.a.m. 106
Junior User  Location: Ballina Registered: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 60 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Is there any water or dampness in your passenger side front foot well. If there is your heater matrix is probably shot. How long does it take for the water to go down ?Is there any funny smell when the heating is on at a high temperature ? |
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Posted 24th Dec 2009 at 01:26
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #7
I'm not entirely sure tbh as im always on top of it, anytime it's below where i left it i straight away put more in, hence it never over heating on me lol. not too sure about the footwell, i guess it felt dampish but that was on a cold wet day so not sure as i think the drivers side felt the same, there is a smell evident sometimes when the heaters are on hot?If the headgasket was gone/on its way out what other signs would there be other than loss of water as theres. 1.no cream on oil filler/dipstick 2.no oil in the water 3.no pressure in the system when i leave it too cool down and open the filler cap 4.no loss of power or missfire etc! any others to look out for? Rich. |
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Posted 24th Dec 2009 at 02:38
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justinaccurate
Seasoned Pro Location: Cov Registered: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 14,425 Status: Offline |
Post #8
smoke out of the exhaust (white smoke that vanishes and not just there when its cold) ? |
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Posted 24th Dec 2009 at 02:41
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Hmmm I've only had the usual, same amount as all the other cars and only been out when its cold so can't really say tbh hmmm! guess i have to wait for a warm day to check that one out? |
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Posted 24th Dec 2009 at 02:52
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dave555
Regular  Location: cumbria Registered: 20 Oct 2009 Posts: 112 Status: Offline |
Post #10
noticed mined had a water leak above the gear box on a pipe that cums out the head i think and it uses about 1 pint a day |
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Posted 25th Dec 2009 at 21:28
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Above the gearbox you say? Any pics, guess it's worth a look eh =) |
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Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 00:02
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector  Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
Post #12
well you've got the top rad hose (goes from thermostat housing to radiator and tees off to the oil warmer/exchange). In the other direction there's a pipe from the stat housing back towards the heater matrix.________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 02:20
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justinaccurate
Seasoned Pro Location: Cov Registered: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 14,425 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Fair point, could even be the bleed screw on the thermostat housing. Does it have a blue/green tinge to it? |
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Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 02:19
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #14
cosmic spanner wrote: well you've got the top rad hose (goes from thermostat housing to radiator and tees off to the oil warmer/exchange). In the other direction there's a pipe from the stat housing back towards the heater matrix. I'll check that out when i get a chance then cheers buddy! justinaccurate wrote: Fair point, could even be the bleed screw on the thermostat housing. Does it have a blue/green tinge to it? The bleed screw on thermostat housing looks pretty good tbh, not sure about my radiator on the other hand, that has loads of random blue/green tinges all over it although I've sat and watched it idle etc and not seen any leaks? |
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Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 03:32
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r.a.m. 106
Junior User Location: Ballina Registered: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 60 Status: Offline |
Post #15
My hdi is losing water every so often i have to refill the rad expansion tank maybe once every few weeks but it is getting more frequent now and my footwell is continually damp, a funny smell also comes when the temp is high and the blowers on full. Im going to replace the heater matrix as these seem to be the common symptoms. The plus you don't seem to have any head gasket symptoms. However do check the pipes in the engine bay if you are able on the off chance one may be split. |
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Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 03:42
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #16
r.a.m. 106 wrote: My hdi is losing water every so often i have to refill the rad expansion tank maybe once every few weeks but it is getting more frequent now and my footwell is continually damp, a funny smell also comes when the temp is high and the blowers on full. Im going to replace the heater matrix as these seem to be the common symptoms. The plus you don't seem to have any head gasket symptoms. However do check the pipes in the engine bay if you are able on the off chance one may be split. Cheers dude, will give it a good check over, a split pipe is looking likely and i'd be over the moon if it was that simple sadly my luck with cars always turns out to be a major problem |
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Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 03:48
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Hey All, Haven't seen any leaks or anything but have noticed that the centre vents now and then shoot white powder out? could that be due to a matrix prob? |
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Posted 30th Dec 2009 at 04:14
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #18
anyone? ^_^ |
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Posted 31st Dec 2009 at 03:04
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
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White powder? Dust maybe?  From what you've said i'd assume heater matrix, if it was only a small leak it'd just dribble out but still circulate through, would account for coolant loss and still getting heat. Get under the glovebox and find the black cover at the back of the dash. If your matrix is leaking you'd be able to feel the wetness around there, that bit cobers the lowest part of the matrix where and dripping would be from. If it IS your matrix.. welcome to my world ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 31st Dec 2009 at 04:21
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Cheers for that buddy will have a look, Wasnt dust was like white powder, the kind you'd get from anti-persperant deodrant and only on the centre vents, I'll check that out |
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Posted 31st Dec 2009 at 06:03
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fordy gti
Newbie  Location: kings lynn Registered: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 25 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Have just had the same problem, i had a ;eak in my water pump and a tiny split on a pipe, its worth having a check mate |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2010 at 03:46
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Nice one buddy will have a look, cheers Rich. |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2010 at 07:50
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Think I may have found the problem looked that when the car was stationary there was a tiny hole near the bottom of the rad and dripping water 'slowly' but i guess when cars running and moving it can shoot out? Clearly time for a new rad! |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2010 at 23:47
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sarthe82
Seasoned Pro  Location: Surrey Registered: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 8,691 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Make sure you get a Nissens ally one, much better quality than standard. Carl (mechanical_repairs) does them still I think.  ________________________________________ Steve |
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Posted 4th Jan 2010 at 20:11
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lingl9z
Regular Location: London Registered: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #25
They a direct fit or modding needed? |
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Posted 4th Jan 2010 at 20:20
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