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Author | Subject: 306 2.0 8v what mods can i do to the engine to make it a hell of |
madhead1987
Newbie Location: leicester Registered: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 5 Status: Offline |
Post #1
hi im a newb to this forum, erm basically i just wanted some advice on how to make my cab faster without changing the 8v lump thats in it at the min and was wondering to turbo it what would i need to do, cheap cheap way ________________________________________ more power bazil!! |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 15:00
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madhead1987
Newbie Location: leicester Registered: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 5 Status: Offline |
Post #2
and also is there a modded rocker cover for them to get rid of that sh*ty plastic cam cover /airbox as no longer need it ?? or do i lol________________________________________ more power bazil!! |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 06:47
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c_j_m
Seasoned Pro Location: Andover Registered: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1,917 Status: Offline |
Post #3
1. Theres a edit post button.2. This is a GTi6/Rallye forum. 3. Type in full and readerable sentences, with proper grammar and spelling. 4. The 8v engine is a bit crap TBH so theres not a lot really worth doing to it. Mi16/S16/GTi engine etc is a better idea, both time and cost wise. 5. Sort the handling and brakes etc. first as theres no point in power without control. 6. Wear well with it. |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 07:04
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allesclar
Seasoned Pro Location: Sheffield Registered: 17 May 2009 Posts: 4,254 Status: Offline |
Post #4
In fairness madhead1985, c_j_m hit it straight on the head.The time and money spent on this, you would be far better off getting a better engine and installing that instead. Would be cheaper and quicker too by the time you have faffed around. Also the amount of room to improve your engine is not alot at all. This is a GTi-6/Rallye forum, doesnt mean you can't ask, but use abit of inititive. We aint gonna tell you its worth investing all your money on a low spec engine now are we Save yourself alot of hassle, wasted money and time, sell your current car and get a 6' if you want performance that bad. Thats what i did with my old 306 1.6 LX If after all that you are still sticking to your guns, then the money would be far better spent on getting the tires done while also getting the brakes upto a good standard too , but then agian the amount you would spend there, you might aswell sell your car and get a 6'. A 6' would be better at stock than you could put into tires and brakes for the same money. anyway ill shutup now. ________________________________________ Team allesclar ® |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 07:53
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madhead1987
Newbie Location: leicester Registered: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 5 Status: Offline |
Post #5
i understand that this is a gti 6 club and that i just wanted some advice on wot to do at the min, i havent got the funds for the 6 engine and had that in mind, so i just wnted some advdice ive already uprated the brakes for drilled and grooved allround and grennstuff pads and have toyo proxes allround as well . thanks neway for the replys . and sorry for spelling incoreclty im no good at spelling ________________________________________ more power bazil!! |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 15:02
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Eric Fail there CJM on the spelling front - wtf is 'readerable'? 1. Welcome to the forum. 2. Drilled and grooved discs aren't going to help you much, so save some dosh and get decent OE discs next time round. 3. Ditch the shite greenstuff and get some Ferodo DS2500 or Mintex 1144 pads instead. They actually work unlike the Greenstuff. 4. Get some GTi6 brakes on there. No idea if they will fit but someone on here will know. You might need to upgrade the master cylinder too. 5. At least refresh the standard suspension for good quality stuff. Bilstein B8 or Koni dampers and Eibach springs are a good entry level setup. You can upgrade the rear TBS and ARB to something better by using Xsara VTS ones. 6. Engine - I would personally leave it to simple breathing mods. If you start going for a new cam etc then you might as well sling in another engine. Overall you'll gain more from better brakes and suspension than anything else. If you can make it lighter then do so. Lighter 15" 7" wide alloys can make a huge difference with good tyres. Michelin PE2s are a lot better than the proxies and last a lot longer. They also are considerably lighter and help acceleration. You can go to 195/50/15s to help save some dosh, but the speedo will over read by about 5%. Hope this helps you a bit! ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 23:03
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dragoon
Seasoned Pro Location: Ghent - Belgium Registered: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 1,071 Status: Offline |
Post #7
get one of the 16v engines and throw it in..also upgrade brakes & suspension as said in the post above ________________________________________ Team WheelwhoreTeam Limited Edition Astor 306 Francorchamps RIP Virtual Blue 208 GTi quote: I this place. So many illiterate deluded fool's acting 'ard . . . and so many literate intelligent people to rip them apart and knock them back down again . . . ahh |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 23:26
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ballys16
Regular Location: Godollo Registered: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 247 Status: Offline |
Post #8
madhead1987 wrote: i understand that this is a gti 6 club and that i just wanted some advice on wot to do at the min, i havent got the funds for the 6 engine and had that in mind, so i just wnted some advdice ive already uprated the brakes for drilled and grooved allround and grennstuff pads and have toyo proxes allround as well . thanks neway for the replys . and sorry for spelling incoreclty im no good at spelling I think I've been there Engine performance 1 - either accept the XSi as is or 2 - swap your engine 3 - spend tons on your current powerplant to gain ~15 bhps Well, its up to you. I went for the S16 engine swap, but TBH, it was not really worth it. ________________________________________ XSi 8V -> S16 |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 23:30
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jcphat
Seasoned Pro Location: In the day room, Nurse! Registered: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,061 Status: Offline |
Post #9
The 8v engine can be cammed (1.9Gti) and you can fit a better exhaust manifold but for much improvement you need to fit a better engine.Brakes- what you have done will make a little improvement-a lot if the old ones were shagged. GTi6 front brakes, discs,calipers and pads with braided lines will make a huge difference and are a straight fit. The prxes are a perfectly good upgrade from budget or ditchfinders. New shocks, O/E spec and eibach springs are well worthwhile. Join here http://peugeot306cabrioletclub.co.uk/index.php mechanical_repairs on here is in Leicester,has worked on and owned cabs and may have brake parts for you. ________________________________________ New Forum same high quality intellectual debate!Team Zimmer™ |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 23:34
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dragoon
Seasoned Pro Location: Ghent - Belgium Registered: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 1,071 Status: Offline |
Post #10
tbh, for a basic to light tuned 2.0 8v lump, the standard 266mm brakes provide MORE than enough stopping power (with decent pads/discs mind)so no need for the heavier gti6 setup ________________________________________ Team WheelwhoreTeam Limited Edition Astor 306 Francorchamps RIP Virtual Blue 208 GTi quote: I this place. So many illiterate deluded fool's acting 'ard . . . and so many literate intelligent people to rip them apart and knock them back down again . . . ahh |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 23:36
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stebro-gti-6
Newbie Location: fareham Registered: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 38 Status: Offline |
Post #11
try & ask on the pug306.net fourm As this is for GTI 6 & Rallye's ________________________________________ China Blue on Black Clones |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 23:47
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jcphat
Seasoned Pro Location: In the day room, Nurse! Registered: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,061 Status: Offline |
Post #12
dragoon wrote: tbh, for a basic to light tuned 2.0 8v lump, the standard 266mm brakes provide MORE than enough stopping power (with decent pads/discs mind) so no need for the heavier gti6 setup Not so, the cab is heavy and needs better brakes. ________________________________________ New Forum same high quality intellectual debate!Team Zimmer™ |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 23:49
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feno22
Regular Location: guisborough Registered: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 288 Status: Offline |
Post #13
lmao orite reece fancy seeing u on ere its nick used to go to college with ya in nottingham ive just bust my gti-6 il do ya engine cheap ________________________________________ fenooo |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 23:50
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dragoon
Seasoned Pro Location: Ghent - Belgium Registered: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 1,071 Status: Offline |
Post #14
jcphat wrote: dragoon wrote: tbh, for a basic to light tuned 2.0 8v lump, the standard 266mm brakes provide MORE than enough stopping power (with decent pads/discs mind) so no need for the heavier gti6 setup Not so, the cab is heavy and needs better brakes. hmm, a cab... missed that, nvm what I said then! ________________________________________ Team WheelwhoreTeam Limited Edition Astor 306 Francorchamps RIP Virtual Blue 208 GTi quote: I this place. So many illiterate deluded fool's acting 'ard . . . and so many literate intelligent people to rip them apart and knock them back down again . . . ahh |
Posted 19th Dec 2009 at 23:57
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #15
drop a 406 or 605 2litre 8v turbo in it, you can pick the engines up for about 150quid, drops straight in, my mate a joiner managed to fit his, and you can get 180 to 200bhp out them easy.and get some gti6 brakes. ________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
Posted 20th Dec 2009 at 00:47
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madhead1987
Newbie Location: leicester Registered: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 5 Status: Offline |
Post #16
feno22 wrote: lmao orite reece fancy seeing u on ere its nick used to go to college with ya in nottingham ive just bust my gti-6 il do ya engine cheap sound feno how is it ? how much will? need it asap as now have mazzive oil leak have no idea where its coming from done rocker not that , checked cam shaft sensor not that only thing i think could b is head gasket done water pump as well dnt wanna take it out cant be arsed lol ________________________________________ more power bazil!! |
Posted 24th Dec 2009 at 00:25
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ballys16
Regular Location: Godollo Registered: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 247 Status: Offline |
Post #17
madhead1987 wrote: feno22 wrote: lmao orite reece fancy seeing u on ere its nick used to go to college with ya in nottingham ive just bust my gti-6 il do ya engine cheap sound feno how is it ? how much will? need it asap as now have mazzive oil leak have no idea where its coming from done rocker not that , checked cam shaft sensor not that only thing i think could b is head gasket done water pump as well dnt wanna take it out cant be arsed lol Its a head job - had it with my 8V. Head skim + gasket + bolts + belt and tensioner. Cost was ~300 pounds. ________________________________________ XSi 8V -> S16 |
Posted 24th Dec 2009 at 02:50
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madhead1987
Newbie Location: leicester Registered: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 5 Status: Offline |
Post #18
quote: Its a head job - had it with my 8V. Head skim + gasket + bolts + belt and tensioner. Cost was ~300 pounds. thought it might be gna do it me self only just done the cambelt and etc. so just head of skim and gaskets ay , i was hoping it wasnt that lol ________________________________________ more power bazil!! |
Posted 24th Dec 2009 at 22:01
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ballys16
Regular Location: Godollo Registered: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 247 Status: Offline |
Post #19
madhead1987 wrote: quote: Its a head job - had it with my 8V. Head skim + gasket + bolts + belt and tensioner. Cost was ~300 pounds. thought it might be gna do it me self only just done the cambelt and etc. so just head of skim and gaskets ay , i was hoping it wasnt that lol Who knows, you might be luckier... oil was coming from the right back side of my engine, mostly. ________________________________________ XSi 8V -> S16 |
Posted 25th Dec 2009 at 00:54
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