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easypug

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I thought I would add my progress with my 205 over the last few years as in the coming months it should be complete. The car is being built for the track and may possibly see the road on occasional weekends.

Spec wise it should roughly be the following:

High boost S/C 6 (Rich_W)

Gaz golds 275lbs spring
23mm TB's
25mm ARB
Group N tarmac dampers

X-sport racing cage

Compbrake B4 front set up

Compomotive MO1682's 16x8

Thats all I can think of the top of my head, I've collected a lot of parts in the last two years. The shell is going away next Sunday for the kit to be fitted. I can post a final spec once its all finished.
Posted 8th Dec 2009 at 01:12
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what are you doing about the wheels / offset from the kit?
Posted 29th Nov 2009 at 20:08
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wheres it getting fitting at rich's?

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Posted 29th Nov 2009 at 20:09
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easypug

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springs wrote:
what are you doing about the wheels / offset from the kit?


The wheels are ET0 so should fit nicely.
Posted 29th Nov 2009 at 22:45
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allesclar wrote:
wheres it getting fitting at rich's?


Fitting the engine myself, Rich will be building the engine while I'm away at some point.
Posted 29th Nov 2009 at 22:50
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Why have you gone high boost? What sort of power are you aiming to get as the normal 400bhp would a real struggle to get the power down

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Posted 30th Nov 2009 at 00:40
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400bhp on track in a 205, coming from someone wit a track spec 205, and only running just under 200, you WILL struggle

you are going to either hope it's raining and use proper wets, or very dry and run full slicks.

look forward to meeting you on track to comapre Big grinD:

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Posted 30th Nov 2009 at 01:15
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There has been quite a few 205's with more power than I plan on having and are coping fine. Just takes a different driving style instead of planting your foot after every corner. Time will tell and if it doesn't cope I can just get it remapped.
Posted 1st Dec 2009 at 22:02
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It may struggle but it would be one hell of a giggle LOL
Posted 1st Dec 2009 at 22:09
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There are a few running big power (around 350 bhp), but they are not track cars. Most of them are drag or "show" cars, and certainly won't be much good on track.

A low boost would be just as quick on track, unless you are secretly the stig??

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Posted 2nd Dec 2009 at 02:59
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piccies!!!!

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Posted 7th Dec 2009 at 04:45
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If its a maxi it will be running reasonably wide rubber I assume? With well set-up suspension and a fairly aggressive diff you should get the power down.

Whether you've got 100bhp or 400bhp its all about throttle control. You can only use a certain amount of horsepower for a given angle of lock, if your spinning the wheels in a straight line then you have issues that need addressing, but otherwise you just have to be careful with your right foot.

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Posted 7th Dec 2009 at 04:54
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of course it's throttle control.

but i would be interested to see lap times on a small tight and twisty track, with a 200bhp car and a 400bhp sc'd car

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Posted 7th Dec 2009 at 13:26
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spiky wrote:
of course it's throttle control.

but i would be interested to see lap times on a small tight and twisty track, with a 200bhp car and a 400bhp sc'd car

Big grin[/quot...

did anyone see the huge turbo'd 205 at prescott on the psooc day??? was absolutley brillaint when the power was down, but a diesel fiesta was quicker through the corners...think that was running 350ish..agree with spikey...better to get 300 and spend the money and get a good gearbox than waste money over 280 300bhp.. but he will/might have you down a long straight like snetterton or the ring... My mates cossie 4wd 350hp 205 cant loose my 180bhp 205 from his rear bumper in the twisties...

cant wait for pics love wide body 205s.... get some more info up.... please

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Posted 7th Dec 2009 at 14:52
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Ok a little bit more info:

Front
Gaz GGA front struts
8" 275lbs springs
Eccentric top mounts
309 Front ARB
RJ Wishbones
Rear
309 Beam tube
23mm Torsion bars
25mm ARB
Citroen ZX trailing arms
Bilstien Tarmac spec dampers

Tyre's will be around 225/45/16 for starters, they see how I get on.

Few pictures of the cage.


I'm waiting for the fibreglass bonnest and tailgate to arrive then it's getting collected to get the kit fitted.
Posted 7th Dec 2009 at 23:56
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nice cage Smile look forward to seeing this progress. i think with a good setup 400 bhp may not be too bad but will take alot of driver skill to be quick

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Posted 8th Dec 2009 at 00:02
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Maxis are n/a Razz

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Posted 8th Dec 2009 at 00:40
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Will that strut brace clear the 16v head looks like its going to be tight?
Posted 8th Dec 2009 at 01:06
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dj_turbo wrote:
Will that strut brace clear the 16v head looks like its going to be tight?


It was speced to fit around a 16v engine although I've not trial fitted an engine as of yet. Will get pics of clearance once there is an engine in if you like?
Posted 10th Dec 2009 at 22:39
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welshpug! wrote:
Maxis are n/a Razz


lol, minor detail!
Posted 10th Dec 2009 at 22:43
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Car has now gone to get the kit fitted. Hopefully they will keep me up to date with pictures but we shall see.
Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 13:18
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No rest for the wicked, drive that wip on boxing day Thumbs up

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Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 14:24
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To stand any chance of keeping a fwd car running that sort of power in a straight line you need to be running a wheel with a offset to match what ever front uprights/hubs your running. Assuming your running 205 uprights will mean running anything other than a ET15ish offset wheel will result in uncontrollable torque steer.

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"You've only got to watch the "306 vs ringtaxi" video & you soon realise how good these mod's are! That guy is running Ash's 30mm ARB, Solid Mounts & 23mm Torsion Bars & some adjustments on the camber. Admittedly, the guy is an awesome driver, but it just go's to show how well these cars can handle with the right modification's
Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 15:07
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crf450 wrote:
To stand any chance of keeping a fwd car running that sort of power in a straight line you need to be running a wheel with a offset to match what ever front uprights/hubs your running. Assuming your running 205 uprights will mean running anything other than a ET15ish offset wheel will result in uncontrollable torque steer.


Interesting that, whats the reasoning behind that?

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Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 20:50
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Using the offset of the wheel to increase track rather than extending the wishbone enough just moves the centre of the wheel out from the steering axis centre line which will give the wheels more leverage for you to fight against every time they try and find traction.

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"You've only got to watch the "306 vs ringtaxi" video & you soon realise how good these mod's are! That guy is running Ash's 30mm ARB, Solid Mounts & 23mm Torsion Bars & some adjustments on the camber. Admittedly, the guy is an awesome driver, but it just go's to show how well these cars can handle with the right modification's
Posted 26th Dec 2009 at 21:43
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