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 antcla.85
Senior User  Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 580 Status: Offline |
Post #1
My mate has a GTI powered 205, with a xsara gear box. He has had 3 sets of 1.9 new drive shafts, and they keep breaking. We have spoken to a well known 'peugeot performance specialist' who said we have to cut a few 'mm' out, to stop the breaking. Just wondered if anyone else has a 205 and if they have overcome a similar problem.(EDITED POST, PROBLEM SOLVED) Thanks Ant ________________________________________ Life is short, make it interestingBuy a Peugeot! |
 Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:49
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gman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Didcot Registered: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,471 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Has the engine been tilted?________________________________________ 1992 Onyx Black 205 GTI-62005 Honda S2000 (Sold) 2002 Audi S3 (Sold) 2005 Clio 182 Trophy (sold) |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:03
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #3
yeah cut about 8mm offWe dont have any problems |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:07
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Indeed you need to shorten the shaft  |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:11
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I have a xsara box in my gti6 205 and with xsara shafts its fine.Can send you a couple if you need? Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:11
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Prob solved then |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:13
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gman
Seasoned Pro Location: Didcot Registered: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,471 Status: Offline |
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Carl, I assume you need to run the Xsara/306 hubs if yu run the vts shafts? Is there anything else you would need to change?________________________________________ 1992 Onyx Black 205 GTI-62005 Honda S2000 (Sold) 2002 Audi S3 (Sold) 2005 Clio 182 Trophy (sold) |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:20
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Scrompy
Aka Quagmire83  Location: Warrington Registered: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2,900 Status: Offline |
Post #8
mechanical_repairs wrote: I have a xsara box in my gti6 205 and with xsara shafts its fine. Can send you a couple if you need? Carl Well yeah it will be fine parked up in a garage 365 days a year! ________________________________________ X-Box Live gamertag: Scrompy PS3 tag: Scrompy |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:26
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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gman wrote: Carl, I assume you need to run the Xsara/306 hubs if yu run the vts shafts? Is there anything else you would need to change? Ah yes thats a good point, i run the 306/xsara hubs, other than that ie shockers and top mounts etc is all 205, i tried the 306 setup and it was a bit 4x4 like. Have hubs aswell should you need them with either the 16mm ball joints or the later 18mm ones. Been a while since i did the conversion now, call me if you like can have a chat about it. Scrompy wrote: mechanical_repairs wrote: I have a xsara box in my gti6 205 and with xsara shafts its fine. Can send you a couple if you need? Carl Well yeah it will be fine parked up in a garage 365 days a year! You jealous  , its done i think 200 miles now, my mates car is a daily driver and runs the same setup.Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:29
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Scrompy
Aka Quagmire83 Location: Warrington Registered: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 2,900 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Im not jelous, I have my own beast sat on the driveway that gets used! ________________________________________ X-Box Live gamertag: Scrompy PS3 tag: Scrompy |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:31
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #11
quote: who said we have to cut a few 'mm' out and weld it back together, to stop the breaking Just re-read your post Nobody told you to weld anything? Also i have found out that you are not using pug shafts wich would explain your problem cheers |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:35
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #12
you can also put the inner knuckle from a 6 shaft (n/s) on the end of you 205 shaftsaves you chopping anything |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:38
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antcla.85
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 580 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Ok thanks for the relpys. Carl, are we saying that to use xsara shafts we need to change the 205 hubs to the xsara ones? If so please could you quote for these parts?Cheers Ant ________________________________________ Life is short, make it interestingBuy a Peugeot! |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 02:04
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #14
you need the xsara or gti6 inner cv cup and then a 205 shaft |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:41
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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mechanical_repairs wrote: I have a xsara box in my gti6 205 and with xsara shafts its fine. Can send you a couple if you need? Carl Do you mean your running the inner joints or have you shortened the shafts? Standard xsara shafts are far to long aren't they?! 16mm Xsara/306 hubs are virtually identical to 205 hubs so I don't see how this would help apart from possibly losing you some camber. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:42
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #16
ant - buy a genuine shaft and chop 8mm off or put a 6 end on the n/s shaftjob done |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:44
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antcla.85
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 580 Status: Offline |
Post #17
PROBLEM SOLVED CHEERS ALL FOR HELP________________________________________ Life is short, make it interestingBuy a Peugeot! |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:48
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gman
Seasoned Pro Location: Didcot Registered: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,471 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Thanks Carl, I think I'll get the engine and everything running first and see how I go. If I start breaking them I'll give you a shout.________________________________________ 1992 Onyx Black 205 GTI-62005 Honda S2000 (Sold) 2002 Audi S3 (Sold) 2005 Clio 182 Trophy (sold) |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:49
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toby
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bourne Registered: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 1,400 Status: Offline |
Post #19
If my memory serves me correctly we used to put 306 TD ends on a 205 shaft so they didn't bottom out in the diff, it was 15 years ago so i might be wrong!________________________________________ Previous Peugeot - 2000(w)GTI-6, Me old China, Supercharged with working aircon! |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 04:07
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #20
yeah, that's the very same trick they mention abov,e use the later inner CV joint cup.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 22:44
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smighall
Smeg-all  Location: b*tching and Whinging Registered: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 10,012 Status: Offline |
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Also 205 1.9 gti hubs are basically the same as the 16mm (balljoint) 306 ones, just without the ABS holes...________________________________________  Seat Leon Cupra FR / 306 GTI6 / Breaking 205 GTI6 / Caterham 7 / Mercedes Sprinter 311CDI LWB Sold: Fisher Fury - Laguna DCI Estate - P1 306 XSI - E30 BMW 325i Baur Convertible - Daihatsu Fourtack - Suzuki GSXR600 - 205 Rallye |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 22:47
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #22
and less camber________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 22:52
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baz306gti-6
Regular  Location: aylesbury Registered: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 386 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Having issues with my 205 gti6 and it's drive shafts, I fitted a 16v XSI 5 speed to my gti6 lump and I have been using 1.9 205 Gti shafts, I have knackerd the outer passengers as the gaiter spilt on a 200 mile trip. I have a worn outer joint now  , right the only shafts I have are some 1.6 Gti ones or gti6 ones along with the 1.9 that are fitted. Any smart whizz know if I can make a decent set outer what I have, I know the standard gti6 shafts are to long but the sound of it I could swap some bits from each ? Oh btw I run 309 Gti arms ________________________________________ Put your spare GTI6 lump a 205 GTIPeugeot Expert 1.9D (69bhp Beast) Peugeot 306 GTI6 £700 (For Sale) 1995 328 BMW coupe (blew it up) 1987 205 GTI6 (Now back on the road) New 1991 Miami blue 205 Gti (sold) ........Good times |
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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 23:22
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #24
you need the gti6, xsi, ns inner cv cup |
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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 09:17
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gman
Seasoned Pro Location: Didcot Registered: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,471 Status: Offline |
Post #25
You can do what jonnie said, but if the safts eventally go or boots split, then it is a pain to start swapping the cups onto the replacement shaft.I would use a 205 diff with the 306 box. That way you can still run the standard 309 shafts without the need to swap the cups over. Edit: sorry, just realised you run 309 arms, so you would ideally need 309 shafts to eliminate the risk of them pulling out of the box on full lock. ________________________________________ 1992 Onyx Black 205 GTI-62005 Honda S2000 (Sold) 2002 Audi S3 (Sold) 2005 Clio 182 Trophy (sold) |
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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 10:18
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